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Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor

John Moore


Here's our spoiler-y take on the Richard Curtis penned Doctor Who episode, Vincent And The Doctor...

Published on Jun 5, 2010


PLEASE NOTE: THIS REVIEW CONTAINS SPOILERS. OUR SPOILER-FREE REVIEW IS HERE.

It's ironic, really. I get one week of reviewing Doctor Who (Simon's on holiday), and what do I get to spoil? Absolutely NOTHING. Oh no, no big reveal for John.

Last week the boss had Rory's ‘death' (my mental jury is still out on whether that's the right word) and a bit of the Tardis wrapped in a spotty hanky. What do I get? Vincent Van Gogh is from somewhere in the Scottish Highlands, apparently.

Oh, and Bill Nighy is a bona fide national treasure, though you probably already knew that.

You know what, though? I wouldn't swap it for the world.

So, what do you want to know? The Doctor's spoiling Amy, presumably to ease his own guilt over what has happened to Rory in the valleys (with the trumpet gun and the strange light from the crack in time, though where was, remains unknown). We assume he still remembers Rory - he mistakenly says Rory's name at one point - though it's never explicitly made clear. Whatever, he certainly doesn't want to talk to Amy about it.

After seeing a strange figure at a window within Van Gogh's painting, The Church At Auvers, while on a tour of the Musee D'orsay in Paris, The Doctor gets his adventuring head on and decides they need to help Vincent.

"I know evil when I see it," he says. But not for the first time this season, people's eyes are playing tricks on them. Indeed, sight is becoming a sledgehammer of a theme that Stephen Moffat has been exploring for some time now.

His contribution to The Doctor Who Storybook, back in 2007, was a dark short story called The Corner Of The Eye about perception-altering little miscreants called Floofs. Peripheral vision and half-seen creatures were a concept he returned to in this year's series opener too. Then, of course, there are the iconic weeping angels of Blink, and this year's two-parter. Even his Vashta Nerada (of Silence In The Library) moved as shadows, but were something quite different.

Sight, or should that be ‘vision', is again a central theme of Vincent And The Doctor. It is made clear that Van Gogh has a visual acuity beyond the norm. He can ‘see' things others simply cannot, almost beyond this dimension. In one later scene, this gift is wonderfully represented by a stunning animation where the night sky is transformed into Vincent's Starry Night canvass, leading the Doctor to comment that nothing he has seen is as beautiful as the things Van Gogh sees. Earlier, to prove the point, Van Gogh observes that Amy is sad, which Amy denies. Apparently, the artist can see the hidden truth, see beyond whatever the crack is doing to erase events. Does this give scope to reverse the damage done, one wonders?

The concept of ‘vision' permeates everything here. Not least in the episode's ‘big bad'. Indeed, mirrors and frames, compositions and interpretations are central to the comedy, the drama and the beauty of Vincent And The Doctor.

What the characters can and can't perceive, sight, the eye and its relationship to the brain are once more explored in detail, this time by the illuminating writing of Richard Curtis.

We meet a cantankerous, somewhat sozzled and broke Van Gogh in what is presumably Auvers-sur-Oise in France, presumably sometime in 1890 not long before to the artist's suicide (right there, knocking about his house are several classic Van Gogh canvasses, including Prisoner's Round, painted that year while Van Gogh was in an asylum).

The timescale for the episode focuses on Vincent's prolific outpouring of work prior to his death. However, Vincent's sleeping arrangement, the subject of his Bedroom In Arles painting, which one scene here riffs on, are from his time in another town further south a few years earlier.

Not that I'm nitpicking, or anything you understand. As is drama's way, this episode plays fast and loose with facts to make its point, but in a true homage to roots of the Doctor Who concept, Curtis provides a highly engaging historical overview of Van Gogh, his essential works, motivations and life.

The monster-centric conceit of this instalment is that the Krafayis in the window - may we present your Monster Of The Week, ladies and gentlemen - is not the pure evil we are initially lead to believe it is. Yes, it is killing villagers; yes, it is pretty gruesome looking, a bit like a huge, featherless mutant turkey; yes, it is invisible to the naked eye (at least to everyone except Vincent and his extraordinary ‘sight'); yes, people are starting to blame the mad artist for what's happening. However, what we eventually discover is that the monster is blind, confused, lost and alone. Are you getting these points? They've been made enough times.

Another important device related to sight is the Doctor's curious identification machine, which eventually identifies the monster in a nice comedic action scene. When The Doctor himself looks into it, it identifies him by summoning up images of Hartnell and Troughton. Tell me that's not important and I'll call you a liar. I'd lay money we're going to be seeing that machine again some time soon.  

When Vincent kills the Krafayis with fifteen minutes of the episode to go, the fact that the monster is mere symbolism, a thematic sheep in the clothes of a B-movie wolf, becomes clear. Only after the climatic confrontation in Auver's church, do we get to the real point of Vincent And The Doctor: a chance for Curtis to flex his innate talent for pathos in the episode's emotional, sentimental coda.

Those of you who read the spoiler-free version of this review will know that I waxed quite lyrically about how much I enjoyed this forty-odd minutes. As a piece of Whovian folly, I found it almost life-affirming. Others have dug into the sentimentality and the pathos with disdain. I didn't feel like that at all. I love the way Curtis used the ending. For me it drove home a very important point that I think writes a cheque that Moffat will cash later on.

Specifically, it is that pretty much all the Doctor can do is try to make things better, bearable. He can illuminate lives, give them deeper meaning, offer insight and perspective that others can only fantasise about, but ultimately some things just are, and he's powerless to change that.

We saw it last week. Though the events weren't a fixed point in time, he was powerless to stop human nature screwing it up. And this week even offering Vincent Van Gogh an insight into his legacy was not enough to shift his demons of depression. Despite knowing that he will be appreciated for a hundred odd years to come, Vincent still takes his own life in the same horrible way, at the same time. All that changes is the dedication of a painting to Amy. His life was enriched, altered, but ultimately stayed the same.

While this episode moves the larger story arc on very little, it still, I believe, augments the larger drama quite a bit. I stand by initial analysis of this episode as an exquisitely important piece of fluff. Vincent And The Doctor is a shiny trinket, a tableau, an ornament. But it's one that tells us more about the show's central protagonists than it has any right to, effortlessly splashing colour across the characters.

As I said in my earlier review, Stephen Fry is very fond of reminding people of Oscar Wilde's sentiment that "all art is quite useless". Vincent And The Doctor is utterly useless, but absolutely art.

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Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By intheshadows 1 June 5, 2010 06:34:18 PM

Richard Curtis, take a bow. Simply brilliant episode.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Doenutty 1 June 5, 2010 06:39:12 PM

I very much enjoyed this episode, I thought the visuals were very good and I loved them taking Vincent to see that even though he isn't appreciated in his own time, he will be one day. Ultimately it doesn't conquer his demons but nevertheless it would have been a pretty good day for him lol Definitely enjoyable and I'm sad there are only a couple of episodes left in this series!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Noddle 1 June 5, 2010 06:40:47 PM

Concur, a cracking ep, although hardly subtle (confession booth and the Doctor, anyone? Not to mention the sunflowers...). My main complaint comes (shock horror) in the credits - yes, they state that Van Gough was depressed, and yes they say he killed himself (both of which are as far as I'm aware historically accurate), but that doesn't mean they need one of those "if you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this programe" messages! I expect to see those after 'Enders, not Doctor flipping Who!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By i_see_stars 1 June 5, 2010 06:44:49 PM

I loved this episode - such a sad ending, but effective. This, in my opinion, is the best of season 5 yet.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By sicubitt 1 June 5, 2010 06:52:34 PM

The "Monster of the week, ladies and gentlemen" is Van Gogh's depression. This is wonderful story telling; art and metaphor. With this new series Steven Moffat is painting a masterpiece.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By intheshadows 1 June 5, 2010 06:53:01 PM

Agree with Noddle. I mean, there wasn't one of those messages after 'Journey's End' because Davros was clearly mental. Seriously though, I didn't see the need for the BBC to molly coddle its audience.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By procrastinationathon 1 June 5, 2010 06:53:21 PM

i went into this with an underlying hatered for most of richard curtis' output, and, well, this didn't change it. that's not to say it was terrible or anything like that, but, it was just ok. roll on next week basically.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Doenutty 1 June 5, 2010 06:54:11 PM

I was very surprised at the message at the end Noddle, just struck me as very odd and unnecessary, it didn't focus too much on the madness apart from when he was in his bedroom. Very peculiar.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By alexwlchan 1 June 5, 2010 06:58:49 PM

Lovely episode, definitely the best in the series thus far, and among the best since the revival in 2005. Loved the Starry Night bit as well - if they can do animation like that, why was last week's drill explosion so rubbish? And such a touching scene in the gallery at the end - not a dry eye in the house!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By _tjn_ 1 June 5, 2010 06:59:37 PM

superb. I wept.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By sicubitt 1 June 5, 2010 06:59:59 PM

also, sorry for being pedantic but it's great to hear him properly called "Van Goff" and not the American "Van go". (Sorry American fans - no offence intended)!!! Or that should be no offense intended! lol.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Vaderwink 1 June 5, 2010 07:03:39 PM

I liked it a lot - great standalone episode, without getting bogged down with the main story arc (cracks). Also, fantastic performances from all involved - for me, Matt Smith is providing more laugh-out-loud moments per episode than others before him.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By sicubitt 1 June 5, 2010 07:05:51 PM

The end message was for anyone who got that the monster Van Gogh was fighting was his own depression. It was appropriate in my humble opinion and actually highlights how much this story can be taken on different levels. Well done to the new 'Doctor Who' team who produce episodes that can be taken on multiple levels. Now there's clever!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Noddle 1 June 5, 2010 07:09:26 PM

Well yes, but in that case why not show such a message after Waters of Mars? Wherein someone actually commits suicide! (granted, we see the laser flash and naff all else, but still...)

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By zac200 1 June 5, 2010 07:13:50 PM

Very well writing episode I have depression and that's exactly how I'm like it was good to see I'm not alone even though it did make me cry at the end when Vincent saw that he would be remembered

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Glibtongue77 1 June 5, 2010 07:16:36 PM

A fantastic episode. The Starry Night animation meld was wonderful. Pathos and humour in equal measure which you would almost expect from Richard Curtis. And when the Doctor and Amy were bouncing up the stairs I even sensed an air of City of Death about the proceedings! Great stuff.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Noddle 1 June 5, 2010 07:23:28 PM

As someone who's only experience of Curtis is Blackadder (and primarily Blackadder the Fourth at that), this was remarkably lacking in humour, though, given the subject, the content and the subtext, it would probably be a bit crass to give it the good old "FLANDERS PIGEON MURDERER!" treatment.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By The_Tomahawk_Kid 1 June 5, 2010 07:38:16 PM

A story that adds very little to the bigger picture, but an absolute gem - the best episode of the series. I thought we were not going to get a gem this series, but well done Richard Curtis for proving me wrong. The script was great, the acting possibly the best all series, the art direction was brilliant and even the effects were good - I loved the Starry Night scene. The pacing of the story also seemed spot-on this time. Absolutely brilliant.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Noddle 1 June 5, 2010 07:40:50 PM

I'm trying to avoid the effects right now. I watch in SD and of course everything's very much HD these days, so I'kll only make myself sound silly. Er.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Grimr 1 June 5, 2010 07:55:09 PM

Wonderful stand alone episode. I blubbed like a baby...

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By captainkibble 1 June 5, 2010 08:35:12 PM

Those whining about the BBC's message at the end should read my blog entry here: http://cpkb.info/5 Hopefully it might make you think before you complain in future.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By laowaichris 1 June 5, 2010 08:40:38 PM

Dear Mr Richard Curtis, today you have successfully readjusted your karma. You can live with the knowledge that you will no longer be spending the after-life sitting in a small room with Ben Elton simultaneously watching repeats of The Vicar of Dibley and the musical We Will Rock You for the rest of eternity. As for Ben Elton.... From God.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Noddle 1 June 5, 2010 08:46:01 PM

For the record, I'm not compaining as such, it was just not exactly something I was expecting - now, if they'd actually made something of said depression or suicide beyond "oh, he topped himself at 39" I may understand it, but as they were just recounting the historical facts, I don't see the point.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Mawson 1 June 5, 2010 09:01:11 PM

Having battled depression myself, and knowing others who have suffered in a similar way, I applaud the BBC for its messages during the credits. To complain about this is utterly contemptible. Great episode by the way!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Lachesis 1 June 5, 2010 09:27:22 PM

Awesome episode and an amazingly assured and courageous piece for the first season of a new doctor.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Kaedus 1 June 5, 2010 09:36:07 PM

There was an historical inaccuracy. The episode is set in 1890, the year in which Van Gogh painted The Church at Auvers and died. However, in 1888 he cut the lobe off of his left ear. This is a very famous and widely renowned fact regarding van Gogh and it wasn't shown in this episode. I understand that a ragged ear wouldn't be child friendly but they could have at least had him wear his bandage which is famously portrayed in self portraits of the time. Despite this error I did enjoy the episode however.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By LittleTime 1 June 5, 2010 11:47:14 PM

Fawning, sentimental pap. Worst DW this series. Every time they have a historical 'celeb' on DW it turns out rubbish, the only exception being Queen Victoria.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Rabsi1 1 June 5, 2010 11:48:19 PM

Oh sicubitt... you may be even more ignorant than the Americans, the pronounciation 'van goff' is just as incorrect as 'van go' the actual pronounciation is something more like 'van khokh' with the 'kh' being a harsh tone, commonly seen in the Middle East, it's a bit of a mouthful and undoubtedly the reason the rest of the world sought refuge in an easier way to say it.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By LittleTime 1 June 5, 2010 11:51:14 PM

...by the end of the episode I too felt like killing myself.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By jimreeve 1 June 6, 2010 12:19:26 AM

Best episode of the series so far, by far. Okay, it was a touch sentimental, but it worked. In a series characterised by frequent poor scripting and shallow characterisation, for once the writing leapt into life, allowing the characters to do so too. Finally we get to see what a (very) good Doctor Matt Smith can be, given good material. And no crack tacked on the end like a clunky afterthought. After a series of misfires, this episode was a real pleasure – and a bit of a relief!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By dave1159 1 June 6, 2010 01:59:59 AM

Loved it... great intelligent TV... all good but It did keep making me think how much the show misses Donna, Amy's ok but not a patch on Ms Noble

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Headache2112 1 June 6, 2010 05:23:36 AM

An absolutely wonderful episode. Heartwarming, and heartbreaking. The horror and suspense was perfect pitch, and the unfortunate reality of the "monster" was just as heartbreaking as Vincent's eventual end. The comedic elements hit their targets just as much as the dramatic. The Doctor's motorcycle mirror was a terrific artifact with reflections of a terrifying creature you really believed was right there behind Matt Smith. The quiet scene with Vincent, the Doctor and Amy enjoying a starry night - brilliant! To top off all that, a special invitation for Vincent, into the TARDIS and into the future to witness for himself the truth of his talents. Not just the best of Matt Smith's era so far, but one of the best episodes of "Doctor Who" since it's premiere in 1963!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By matthewsouthcott 1 June 6, 2010 06:35:30 AM

One of the best episodes this series, and since the show was brought back in 2005. Van Gogh was treated with the utmost respect for his works, his life and his depression and madness that comes with this. They did downplay this and were loose with some facts and dates but this is Doctor Who we expect this really from a Sci Fi series. Thought Matt Smith was very good at treating Vincent with honour and allowing the others not to be too overshadowed. Overall Richard Curtis has penned one of the finest episodes this Who fan has seen for a long time

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By fanboy 1 June 6, 2010 07:47:35 AM

has anyone else noticed the use of the first doctors throughout the series? I could be just over thinking things however, there has been a few uses of Hartnell's image over the series, the library card in the venice episode for one and also the tardis has a "st johns" sticker on it, which was previously used on the first incarnation of the TARDIS. There has been references of the light from the cracks tracing from the beginning of things. I find the use of the early doctors imagery and the references to much of a coincendence. Maybe I'm reading to much into this, anyone have any thoughts on the matter? Also just to say this weeks episode was brilliant.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By cptjackharkness 1 June 6, 2010 08:08:25 AM

simply Brilliant best of this season loved it and yes i cried when they brought him to see his art. Nighy was such a breath of fresh air also loved it all

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Viridis 1 June 6, 2010 09:37:30 AM

I must admit I cried at the end and couldn't stop myself. That was brilliant and beautiful. Fantastic episode. I loved the subtleties concerning Rory's death, especially the fact that the Doctor and Amy hid in a confession booth, with Amy in the seat of the vicar and the Doctor in the seat of the confessor. He knows a lot about the crack, Rory, the TARDIS shrapnel and Amy is connected somehow and Amy doesn't know. I liked that symbolism. Richard Curtis is great and so was Tony Curran's wonderful portrayal of Vincent van Gogh. His best moment was when he said "I love you" to Amy. He's been alone and depressed for so long.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By thefifthdoctor 1 June 6, 2010 09:55:05 AM

Holier than thou comments featured amongst the above aside, I enjoyed the episode. Tony Curran was excellent I felt, Matt Smith continues to enjoy proving me wrong in my original "oh no!" assessment, and seeing Bill Nighy in Doctor Who was wonderful, if brief. He is a legend. The invisible beastie was not important at all, so I didn't mind the shonky effects, especially after the fantastic night sky animation. My only gripe about the episode itself is a recurring theme for many - the overly loud & distracting (and often inappropriate) music. See here the wonderful end scene in the gallery with Vincent. That song was completely out of place IMO. I agree with previous posters RE the Hartnell/Troughton connection - it's too glaring to be insignificant, surely? At the end, personally, I felt the ad by the BBC was out of place for Doctor Who, but having seen Confidential, Curtis himself said he had hopes the episode would encourage people to seek help, so perhaps that was why it was added? The only offensive thing to me was that next week features James Corden. When will people wake up & realise he has zero on screen talent? Overall rating: 8/10 for me.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Richie9 1 June 6, 2010 09:56:55 AM

When they Doctor turns to Vincent and says' "you're Vincent Van Goff' I was desperate for Amy to reply, "no, he's Vincent Van Go", only for VVG to respond, "no, It's pronounced van G-howg..." Alas it wasn't to be.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By bobsuncorp 1 June 6, 2010 09:59:01 AM

If you have been visited by time travelling visitors from the future, been responsible for killing a creature that turned out to be disabled and then given a glimpse of your legacy a 120 years later (but never appreciated in your life) and are having problems with this experience, there are people who can help. The BBC have set up a website at www.bbc/goodgallifreyans.co.uk.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By The_Two 1 June 6, 2010 11:01:04 AM

Captain Kibble: You beat me to it, and your blog post covered most of what I wanted to say about the "If you have been affected..." message. Quite simply, I didn't expect it, but if it caused just one person suffering from depression to reach out and get help then it was worth it. We're not talking an animated Norton here, it didn't intrude or affect the episode in any way, it simply threw a lifeline to people who maybe didn't know where to turn. It's small minded and petty to complain about that. It's no skin off your nose and if it helped just one person, it was completely worthwhile.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By tubster 1 June 6, 2010 12:47:02 PM

brilliant, best episode so far. sad,funny and inspirational at the same

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By matthewsouthcott 1 June 6, 2010 02:57:01 PM

The Gavin Fuller Telegraph review goes to prove Den Of Geek is the best if you can read it please do http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/doctor-who/7804028/Doctor-Who-review-Vincent-and-the-Doctor.html

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By matthewsouthcott 1 June 6, 2010 02:58:17 PM

Don't think Gavin could have missed the point of the episode more if he tried, as the comments show

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By WhoRu 1 June 6, 2010 03:15:17 PM

A truly wonderful episode which actually brought me to tears at the end. To all those commenting on the message at the end, I don't think it was just referring to individuals with depression. The fact that Vincent still takes his own life, even though he has been shown how appreciated and loved he is, is a very profound statement. I'm sure anyone watching that had been affected by a loved ones suicide would be touched by this. Families are often left with a feeling of helplessness and a sense of "maybe there was something we could have done to save them" The tragic poignancy of this episode was so touching, highlighting the fact that there really isn't anything you can do, wonderfully written Mr Curtis!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Picard_loves_diplomacy 1 June 6, 2010 03:16:26 PM

I thought this was a pretty average episode, though admittedly with some great moments. I loved the part where they were staring up at the night sky and you got to see it through Van Gogh's eyes. Amy's interest him however was grating, and somewhat pointless. Also, whilst Tony Curran did a decent job of portraying him, his scottish accent was completely incongruous. Overall, an episode with too much style, and not enough substance.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By willbass86 1 June 6, 2010 03:16:51 PM

I agree with CaptainKibble, I am currently in the throes of a deppressive condition and I was very appreciative of the sentiment the BBC displayed with the message over the credits. I thought the epsiode was excellent, if somewhat inconsequential.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By amalthea1983 1 June 6, 2010 03:27:25 PM

What a beautiful episode, the scene with Vincent in the museum brought tears to my eyes...Tennant\RTD are now a distant memory.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By stueyd67 1 June 6, 2010 03:32:46 PM

I suffer from bi-polar and/or depression and the last ten-fifteen minutes of this beautiful episode meant a lot to me. Vincent seen the effect his art has people and the importance of it, but knowing that he still took his own life. Suffering from this condition was summed up perfectly. Thank you, Mr Curtis.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Snake 1 June 6, 2010 03:38:00 PM

This episode was brilliant, I loved the romance between Amy and Van Goth, the scene where she and the Doctor took him to the art gallery was deeply moving, an outstanding piece of television. Bill Nighy and the Krafayis were awesome as well :)

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By bazellis 1 June 6, 2010 05:28:26 PM

The Gavin Fuller review from the Telegraph is spot on. Totally boring episode, of what has been a forgettable series. Next weeks episode looks absolutely awful with Corden camping it up. Let's just hope the finale can make up for what this once great show, but has become a shadow of it's former self. If not, I think series 6 could well be the last.....

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By paulychilds 1 June 6, 2010 07:15:41 PM

Getting fed up of the 'How to pronounce Van Gogh' argument. Here is the definitive answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLTQv8RH1TE

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By tombombadil66 1 June 6, 2010 07:23:33 PM

I too, totally agree that this is one of the best Who stories since 1963. It made me cry like a child and reminded me of the beautiful sentiments displayed in the film Amelie. Richard Curtis and the cast should be so proud of what they achieved here. I would call this a perfect episode, showing what can be done with 45 minutes. Definitely on a par with Blink in many ways, but on a different level. I've not really liked Curtis's work since Black Adder. Here he redeems himself in my eyes. I'd say if you lack empathy, then avoid this episode.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By GARZIE 1 June 6, 2010 07:53:52 PM

A truly magical episode ,that encapsulated depression so brilliantly .Especially in its ending.Mental illness, depression or otherwise is truly a monster that can not be killed or tamed without huge difficulty if at all.Even by a 906 year old alien in a blue box that can show you the glories of tomorrow.It only shields you from your demons for so long. Moreover sadly this monster can take your life with equal ease. As a long standing sufferer I certainly appreciated a subtlety rarely seen in any drama let alone one aiming for a family audience .tombombadil66 got it spot on you need empathy to enjoy it .No wonder bazellis dident like it along with that other humonoid Gavin Fuller.Love the fact that virtually nobody agreed with him on the telegraph blog ,but I forget human beings watch doctor who too

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By CiaraK 1 June 6, 2010 08:13:40 PM

LittleTime...why do you bother watching, reading reviews and posting comments if you don't like this programme? Nothing better to do with your time? Or are you deliberately 'trolling'? Richie9...Amy, being Scottish definately WOULDN'T say 'Van Go'! She'd say Van Goch (as in 'loch') - and, yes, I DO know that's still not the correct way to say it! ;D LOVED this ep; cried like a baby. Was very bemused by the standard BBC 'if you have been affected...' announcement; and, yes, I HAVE suffered from (severe) depression... If the announcement helped anyone, fair enough; it just felt inappropriate given what I thought was a very light-handed treatment of the issue of depression in (what some people seem to forget is) a child-centric family-viewing sci-fi entertainment show.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By A1nostalgia 1 June 6, 2010 09:06:27 PM

Excellent episode. Life affirming and enjoyable this was a great distraction from the heavier storyline of the past few weeks. Pleasantly surprised by Richard Curtis' take on Who. Steven Moffat would do well to ask him back next year. ;o)

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By shelsfc 1 June 6, 2010 09:45:11 PM

Absolutely agree with you, it's a beautiful episode. The end did bring genuine tears to my eyes. Tony Curran was excellent for the whole ep, but particularly in that scene. The depression was well dealt with, without being heavy handed. I could keep going, but it's all been said already. Beautiful ep.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By speakillkid 1 June 7, 2010 02:30:05 AM

As a sci fi fan this episode was borderline wack, but as an artist, I loved this episode, spending time with Van Gogh, and that scene in the museum had me crying. And no I don't cry easily, that scene alone made this one of my favorite episodes.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Name1ess 1 June 7, 2010 10:45:15 AM

Oh for goodness sake! Have I suddenly jumped to e-space or where ever the new Cybermen come from? This was, at best, a decent episode but up the dose of sentimentality and everybody starts blubbing like two year olds. Despite hiding behind the stale ‘monster of the week’ format you could tell that this was written by Richard Curtis as it had his sugar coated paw prints all over, and I now await with dread his (inevitable) next episode which will probably be called something like ‘Fluffy kittens and the Doctor’! I’m not saying it was dreadful but was it the best episode since 1963? – NO NO NO!

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Name1ess 1 June 7, 2010 10:50:45 AM

On a totally separate note from the rant above. I really do hope that this link to the first Doctor goes somewhere.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By antonio7865 1 June 7, 2010 11:32:54 AM

Bugger! A Doctor Who episode that made me, a 45 year old man watching his long-time favorite TV show, cry. My 11 year old daughter didn't cry, and couldn't understand my tears. What an episode; what a most magnificent story. Damn you Stephen Moffat and damn you Richard Curtis for such brilliant writing. I loved the little nod to Bill Nighy and the bow ties - many of us must remember the speculation many years ago Bill Nighy name was spoken of as a serious replacement Doctor. Wonderful suble stuff. I too wonder if at the end of this series we may find ourselves in a bending time vortex controled by the TARDIS itself as it tries to get out of its own destruction within the Silence of the Crack...

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By bobsuncorp 1 June 7, 2010 07:56:49 PM

So apparently everyone who laughed at the message at the end is an unfeeling unsympathetic sociopath who has never been depressed or considered suicide or lost someone close to them. Ever heard of Gallows humour? If you can't laugh then you cry. People deal with their issues in their own way and there is something odd about putting a "if you have been affected by issues with this programme" on a frickin SCI FI show. Was there a similar message for ex POW's after Captain Picard was abducted by the Borg? What about Suvivor's guilt for Will Smith in I Am Legend. Save it for the Drama shows, thats all I'm saying.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By fryator 1 June 7, 2010 10:19:18 PM

I've been introduced to Doctor Who recently but this series have been most fun to watch, and this episode has been, for sure, my favorite this season. I dont understand why do people think sci-fi has nothing with to do with drama, while the some of the best sci-fi stories, films and books/novels are filled with drama, raising the most important questions of them all through and if necessary make us cry, why shouldn't they? From the top of my head i remember Blade Runner, or more recently BG. Sci-fi is not just laughs and shooting lasers....as for the message afterwards, while for most they seemed silly, i assure you for some it was not. And i find it quite honorable that they putted the interests of the fewer in front of the masses for once. You should be proud that someone in your television actually cares and not bitx about it.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Caboodle 1 June 9, 2010 03:28:42 AM

They went out of their way to make it clear *exactly* when the Doctor met VvG: June 1-3, 1890 - 7 weeks before he committed suicide. In view of the fact that the Doctor says to Amy that it's "just months from now" that Vincent would kill himself - clearly off the mark by a significant amount of time - can this be chalked up as another wibbley-wobbley clue that time is being messed with again? I'm voting yes.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By junegrape 1 June 27, 2010 02:20:04 AM

The scene where the Doctor brings Van Gogh into our present to show him he is acknowledged, appreciated, and regarded as one of the greatest artists of all time.... what a beautiful scene. I would wager that in some manner we all would want such a moment for ourselves, to know that our lives, our passions, our talents *mean something* to this world.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By penny 1 June 28, 2010 11:07:53 PM

Just finished watching this episode. Loved it, of course. ...except... isn't the Doctor supposed to be really smart? There was such an obvious solution to the invisbility at hand, and they never once tried it. Would have been easy enough, to still have the fight end like it did -- but - there in the church, invisible monster chasing them around... and Vincent came to paint, not only his sharp-legged easel, but also with PAINT. Why did all these smart people not even Try the obvious solution, and throw some paint onto the invisible monster? ????

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By rfilipek 1 June 29, 2010 01:39:56 PM

While I agree that the episode does not advance the storyline much, it was by far the most emotionally charged episode of the season. Yes, the doctor made a fool of himself and, yes, Amy is not my favorite companion. However, the emotional aspect of the episode was well portrayed by the actors and does add a level of depth to Amy's and the new Doctor's characters. All in all, an excellent, sort-of-filler episode.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By rfilipek 1 June 29, 2010 01:46:32 PM

I forgot to add: the scene at the museum with Vincent — brilliant and beautiful! As someone noted earlier, some of the best Sci-Fi novels, TV shows, and movies contain a great deal of drama in addition to wonderful visual effects.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By fanof_Who 1 July 14, 2010 04:35:20 AM

This episode was so different from any other DW that I recall, and will stand apart from all the ones to follow. There is depth but still it's DW. I honestly didn't watch the credits at the end but do appreciate the attempt of BBC to reach out to anyone struggling with depression. The episode was a good example of the struggles, misunderstanding and the solitude of the disease. Why would anyone care if they attempt to reach out in the credits? It's not like they did it in the middle of the episode. I loved the ending where they take him to the future in an attempt to show him his importance in the future. Anyone who has struggled with the disease, or knows someone who has, can appreciate this. Sometimes we all feel insignificant, and though most will not become a Van Gogh, we are all important to someone. How surreal...sobering...captivating. Thank you.

Re: Doctor Who series 5 episode 10 review: Vincent And The Doctor
Posted By Rex125 1 October 19, 2011 04:53:32 PM

This episode may have just been completed in history. According to a new (and as I hear heavily researched) biography, Van Gogh didn't kill himself. It was a broken, or so considered, gun two kids were playing with that accidentally shot him in the stomach. The bullet trajectory being upwards from the stomach, which is an awfully weird way to shoot oneself if you're trying to commit suicide. So the kids wouldn't face the consequences, he accepted his death and let it be written down as a suicide by the doctors who attented to him. But well, it's just a theory, with apperantly some sources behind it. I personally find it weird a man that has struggled with depression so long, and therefore known it so well, would just up and kill himself after such a long time. So I'm inclined to at least feel some doubt as to his alleged suicide, of which he left no written note to his brother or family.
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