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The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV

Sarah Jayne Brereton


While strong female characters are gradually increasing, sci-fi TV, not all of them are reaching their potential...

Published on Jul 1, 2010

Surely I can get an ‘amen' from my geek sisters when I point out that we watch sci-fi too? So, why are there so few good female characters in science fiction television?

Certainly, things have improved slightly in recent years, but for every Kara Thrace there are a slew of disappointing female characters in her wake. At best, most female characters on sci-fi shows are annoyingly stereotypical and, at worst, are introduced as pointless eye candy.

These are my votes for the top ten disappointing female characters in science fiction television. Feel free to debate all these in the comments at the end...!

SPOILERS: Please note, that inevitably we discuss plot points for the shows involved. If there's a show you haven't seen, it might be an idea to skip to the next entry on the list.

Anastasia "Dee" Dualla - Battlestar Galactica

The occasion of a regular character on a favourite TV show blowing their own brains out would normally be met with emotions of shock and regret. Dee Dualla from Battlestar Galactica was such a disappointment, though, that, in her case, it felt more like a long overdue mercy killing.

Dualla had the potential to be such a rich and empowering character. On a show that otherwise boiled over with strong female images, from Starbuck to President Roslin, there would have been more than enough room to bring to the foreground the strong black female character that is so clearly lacking from sci-fi television. It would be refreshing to watch the development of a black female character that could be given more to do on a show than merely repeat out loud what she has heard in earphones.

An opportunity lost, because right from the get-go Dualla appears to only be on the show to act as bait for one romantic sub-plot or another. At least her initial romance with Roslin's chief of staff Billy felt natural. In any case, there aren't enough romances on TV that involve the geeky guy getting the hot girl and it was to be encouraged.

There are even fewer examples of the geeky girl getting the hot guy - but that is a topic for another rant! Obviously, it wasn't sexy enough, though, because Billy's body isn't even cold before she is making doe eyes at Lee Adama.

The least interesting aspect of Battlestar was the soap opera elements anyway, and the sudden marriage between Dualla and Adama ranks right at the bottom. It smacked of desperation from the writers trying to find anything at all that would make the character worth maintaining.

Really, they should have let her take that terrorist's bullet instead of Billy.


Shannon Rutherford - Lost

Modelling a sci-fi character after Paris Hilton was always going to be a risky business. Even with expectations that low, it is still difficult not to shake my head and wonder if there was an actual point to the Shannon Rutherford character. Perhaps it is just another one to be tacked onto the long list of questions left unanswered by Lost.

Such was the utter pointlessness of the character that, even as Lost was coming to an end (and save your bitching, I think it ended just fine), I was actively hoping the writers had decided to forget about Shannon and not bring her back. It was looking so positive until, just as the finish line was in sight, the woman with no purpose was back.

Both Shannon and her step-brother Boone Carlyle brought so little to the group that it's surprising the rest of the castaways didn't find a way to off them much earlier. Boone at least had some apparent lifeguarding skills, and did eventually attempt to get involved with the story of the island by becoming John Locke's understudy. Shannon, on the other hand, brought nothing at all to the table other than a smattering of French and the ability to look good in a bikini. If I am honest with myself about how things work, that probably was the real point of her character anyway.

Boone and Shannon were clearly added to the initial cast of Lost in hopes of hooking in teenage audiences. Not even a Cruel Intensions-esque incest storyline could save them from being excess baggage, though.

Thankfully, Lost soon decided it wanted to be a sci-fi show and not 90210 at sea, and the writing was on the wall for both characters. Not before they could sneak in a wholly unbelievable romance between Shannon and Sayid, though, just to remind us how much we wouldn't be missing her character.


Isabelle Tyler - The 4400

Creepy babies with super powers are far more interesting than hormonal teenage girls. That is the lesson all television writers should learn from The 4400's Isabelle Tyler.

The 4400 started off with such promise. A group of 4400 people from across time being suddenly placed on a beach in the American Northwest had scope to be compelling television.

Following the stories of the individual returnees, and trying to unravel the mystery of why they were not just taken, but then returned, held my attention for quite some time. Each of the early episodes skilfully unveiled the variety of paranormal abilities each of the returnees had acquired since their return.

Early on, the character of Lily Moore was one of the more endearing characters, and her mystery came to the forefront when it was revealed she was pregnant when she was returned to modern times.

From that revelation forward, most of the first season of The 4400 focused on the pregnancy and the potential of the resulting child. Even from within the womb, the baby clearly had some sort of super power, and it wasn't exactly set on using them for good.

When returnee guru Jordan Collier merely touches Lilly's pregnant belly he is left crippled with pain. There was just something not right about that baby and we wanted to know why.

After the birth of the baby, Isabelle Tyler, things continued to move in a promising direction. Who could fail to be impressed with a baby that can somehow mind meld with two bad guys and make them turn their guns on themselves and commit suicide? What is not creepy and bad ass about that?

Baby Isabelle can also see into the future, and, as such, Collier became compelled, despite past experiences, to invite both her and her parents to come and live in the protection of the 4400 Center.

Being unconvinced that Collier had made the offer for the most virtuous of reasons only served to make the storyline increasingly interesting for the audience.

Then, some TV executive somewhere must have decided there wasn't enough teenage interest in the show, and Isabelle had the ability to rapidly age. In the space of just one episode, she goes from creepy baby to naked teenager, throwing herself at Shawn Farrell, the male teenage prodigy of the show. Game over as far as the character of Isabelle Tyler is concerned.

When her powers of seduction cease to work on Shawn, she becomes the biggest advertisement for PMT medications ever to air on television.

A character with no motivation for trying to wreak havoc and destruction on the world other than her boyfriend not wanting to shag her anymore is simply boring.

There was briefly some hope that that the writers had figured this out too when they introduced a plot device to return her to the age of a toddler. No dice, though, because, before too long, she is back to being an adult and just as boring as ever.

Jenny - Doctor Who

Honestly, do I even have to expand on this one or will "she sucks" sum it up well enough?

Yes, we get that Georgina Moffat is cute, and likely to make geek boys all over squirm in their seats, but then why not find a better role for her?

Certainly the notion that the Doctor could have children could be an interesting area to explore, but this was just so badly done that it is an episode best forgotten.

Plus, does anybody really believe that Moffat was auditioned for a smaller role on Doctor Who, and they were so impressed with her they randomly chose to have the daughter of Peter Davison play the daughter of the Doctor?

If so, then you probably also believe, as Phil Collinson claimed, that the character of Jenny was created to push and stretch David Tennant's Doctor. I'm just not sure that I buy it myself.


Dawn Summers - Buffy The Vampire Slayer

Buffy fans, put down your pitch forks and just listen! Did Buffy really need a younger sister, and if she did, couldn't she at least be a bit more interesting?

Yes, I know Dawn was the Key and all that, but even that wasn't that special a story line. If we are honest with ourselves, wasn't Dawn Summers just introduced to the cast of Buffy The Vampire Slayer because, by the end of season five, the original Scooby gang just wasn't very teenagery anymore?

If we close our eyes, can't we all just imagine the network executives telling Joss Whedon to find some way of bringing the show back to the high school in hopes of preventing the ratings from dipping any further?

Buffy had been one of the few television shows on TV, never mind just sci-fi shows, aimed at teenagers that provided the audience youthful examples of female liberation. Okay, they were witches and vampire slayers, but Willow and Buffy could kick ass and look after themselves without having to make excuses for their gender.

Even the sideline female characters such as Cordelia and Anya had storylines that saw them become strong independent, if somewhat insane, women.

Buffy The Vampire Slayer also took a refreshingly brave approach to young female sexuality. Willow and Tara's lesbian relationship managed to be groundbreaking, and yet not feel forced into the show.

Perhaps the introduction of Dawn in such a clumsy manner could have been forgiven if she had been given storylines that lived up to those of the female characters that came before her. Instead, she whined her way through most episodes and is given an ever-so-enthralling kleptomania plot.

Her only purpose on the show is to be the damsel in distress, whose teenage antics force Buffy into perilous situations.

So, after we have had this little talk can we all agree that we didn't really need Dawn? Even the Buffy comics only make her 'interesting' by turning her first into a giant and then a centaur!


Captain Elizabeth Lochley - Babylon 5

Why can't female captains on sci-fi shows simply be strong, career minded women with the same drive for success as their male counterparts?

Surely, even in 1998 when Captain Elizabeth Lochley was introduced to Babylon 5, society had reached a point where we could accept that some women would choose traditionally male career paths without having been pushed there through daddy issues?

Apparently not, since instead we got an ex-junkie whose desire to rebel against her anti-military alcoholic artist father made her see joining EarthForce as her only way to reform her life.

Normally, a show putting a female in charge of the ship would be something to be applauded, but the whole characterisation of Lochley is so clumsy that she smacks of tokenism rather than liberation.

Fine, Susan Ivanova had disappeared from the show and John Sheridan had just been made President of the Interstellar Alliance. Both changes meant that the show needed to quickly fill two voids, and putting a female captain in place makes sense, but that doesn't excuse the train wreck of a character that resulted.

Part of the problem surely has to be that Lochley was introduced in the final season of Babylon 5, and most of the characters had seen a good deal of fairly impressive character development. Maybe the temptation was to throw a whole lot of back story at Lochley and hope some of it would stick and draw the viewers into her character.

So random and nonsensical were the threads of this back story, though, that it became nothing short of laughable. Why exactly did she need to have been married to Sheridan at some point the past? A past so distant that Sheridan himself had apparently forgotten about it for the whole series up until it is revealed?

The whole thing was an embarrassing mistake of a character for a show that could, and usually did, do better.


Maya Herrera - Heroes

I won't blame the downfall of Heroes on Maya Herrera and her bleeding eyes, but certainly the decline in the show's quality began at the same time she and her twin brother Alejandro were introduced.

Did anybody care about why her eyes were bleeding for more than two episodes? Sure, the first time it was a bit creepy, but it became so repetitive.

Pretty-faced bleedy eyes would get upset and the person causing her stress would either die, or her antidote brother would step in and reverse the effect. No, you don't have to show us again for us to understand.

Once again, the failure of the female character isn't in the idea, but in the execution. It makes sense that somewhere in the world there would be people with abilities they didn't understand, and that it would be causing them both emotional and legal problems. The time was even right for American television to introduce a kick-ass Latina heroine.

Instead, though, Maya was riddled with stereotypes. Firstly, she is a young South American woman and therefore she must defer all her decision-making powers to the males around her. Then, when she accidently uses her powers to kill somebody, being a Latina apparently means she has no choice but to run to the nearest convent and become a nun.

Really, in 2007 is the only option for a South American woman to run and hide behind a habit, and wait for her brother to rescue her?

The fugitive nature of the siblings' story line had potential to be interesting too. Seeing how lesser developed parts of the world dealt with people that showed abilities could have been fascinating, but once again the ball was dropped. Instead of a strong and empowered woman leading her brother on a journey to find the meaning behind their abilities, we have an emotionally crippled mouse lacking basic common sense.

Even when they meet up with Sylar and discover that he killed his mother, Maya isn't given the brain power to see the danger they are in and reacts as a clichéd soppy woman ready to dish out premature forgiveness.

Evidently, the writers saw Maya and Alejandro as little more than plot devices to get Sylar back into the main action of the series.

Did they really have to stick around for so long into the second season, though?


Kristine Kochanski - Red Dwarf

Red Dwarf would easily make it onto my top ten list of favourite shows of all time, but that doesn't excuse the truly annoying character that is Kristine Kochanski. Kochanski's failings come both from the writing of the character and the poor selection of actresses that have played the role.

I honestly don't care how many young men she titillated in Gregory's Girl, for me, Clare Grogan is easily one of the more annoying women ever to appear on British television. Running fingernails down a chalkboard may come close to competing with how grating her voice can be, and don't even get me started on how downright insulting it is to have a stick insect voicing over Weight Watchers adverts.

So, yes, I admit that, even before the character of Kochanski was given time to develop, there was already an immediate strike against her.

More frustrating are the inconsistencies in the character throughout Red Dwarf. At the start, when she was primarily a fantasy figure for Lister, she was a passable character. Sure, she was annoying in the scenes where she appeared, but she was more or less to Lister what Yvonne McGruder was to Rimmer. I had no problem buying that a guy stuck in space would have emotional and sexual fantasies about the last potential relationship he had previous to being put into status.

Left just there she would have been bearable, but somewhere in the run somebody obviously decided that Red Dwarf had become too much of a sausage fest and the character of Kochanski was reworked to come closer in line to her role in the novels.

Somehow in this transaction she went from being the annoyingly perky, squeaking Scottish Grogran to the nearly as annoying over-enunciating Chloë Annett, an actress who contributes little to the commentaries other than saying how fat (yeah, right) she looks in scenes.

Again, though, as annoying as the actresses may be, the true flaw was the feeling Kochanski needed to be slotted into the everyday life of the ship in the first place.

Part of what made Red Dwarf so entertaining was precisely because of the laddish nature of the group of male characters. A female character to look down on their behaviour simply wasn't needed. If anything, Kryten was already the mother figure of the show, and did a much better job of it than the actual female character.


Diana Fowley - The X-Files

The bitch is back. Only we never heard of her before so why should we care?

When Diana Fowley was introduced to the The X-Files in season five, it was revealed Fowley had been Fox Mulder's partner when he was reopening the X-files in the early 1990s. Okay, so that was out of the blue, but The X-Files was all about mystery, so if the character was developed well, then it could have been forgiven.

After all, Dana Scully was such a positive step forward for female science fiction characters, and when Monica Reyes was introduced she wasn't that bad either. So, The X-Files should have been able to avoid the female character clichés better than most shows.

Could have and should have, but in the case of Fowley they didn't.

Mimi Rogers may have been too mature an actress to be slotted into the busty bimbo sci-fi stereotype, but apparently there was plenty of room for her under the umbrella of the ball-busting bitch cliché. You see, especially in the 1990s, if any woman had worked her way to an advanced position with an organization, she had to be a total bitch that didn't mind stepping on others.

That Scully had escaped this cliché was refreshing, but with Fowley it came back in spades. One cliché wasn't enough, though, and Fowley was also able to tick the box for the one that might possibly annoy me the most.

Just as with Lochley in Babylon 5, if a high ranking female officer is parachuted into an established show,

she has to have had past romantic connections to the male lead.

Apparently, smart women only pick jobs that put them in close contact with their ex-lovers and, sure enough, it isn't long before we find out that Fowley had been Mulder's girlfriend.

What is that I smell? A potential love triangle plot in development between Mulder, Scully and Fowely? Say it ain't so!

If you think I have strong views on the character of Diana Fowley, go on over to YouTube and search for the "Diana Fowley Dies in Sims 2" video and see how far some fans will go to try to purge her from their X-Files memories.


Martha Jones - Doctor Who

File this one under ‘what could have been'. Finally, the Doctor had a companion who was smart enough to do more than just follow behind him in awe. Sure, Rose had street smarts but she still carried the teenage girl feeling with her.

Martha, on the other hand, was a 23-year-old medical student who wasn't afraid to show off her intelligence. Couple that with the opportunity to make her a positive role model for black British girls and you have what should have been a step forward for women in science fiction.

Nope, instead we have to have her fall in love with the Doctor. Say what you will about Donna Noble, but at least she was written like an adult woman who didn't instantly fall in love with any man who showed her a bit of attention.

Martha, on the other hand, not only falls in love with him, but also becomes annoying in her longing. Moaning about being the rebound assistant after Rose and complaining that the Doctor fell in love with a human that wasn't her (Human Nature/The Family Of Blood) smacked more of little girl than medical student.

Then, nearly as quickly as Martha joined the Doctor, she was gone. Almost as if the characterisation had just become too much for the show's writers to handle. Sure, she popped up now and then in both Doctor Who and Torchwood, and each time we are shown she is rising progressively higher through the ranks.

While that should be a good thing, it feel like a cop-out every time, because she could have been one of the strongest companions to have ever graced the inside of the TARDIS. Instead, she was cast to the side as an afterthought.

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Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By FallenAngel2106 1 July 1, 2010 07:39:19 AM

Martha Jones. My least favourite of the assistants..not only of recent times, but ever...and I'm including Bonnie Langford in that!!! Simpering girl with two emotional expressions. Got to agree about Shannon too! Never understood why she was written, was pleased when she died.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Noddle 1 July 1, 2010 08:07:40 AM

I'll give you post-Season5 Dawn. Season 6 she was whining like hell and season 7 she may as well have not existed (I only remember her for about 5 episodes. One of which involves her throwing her sister out, one of which involves her opening a skylight and the others of which generally involve her being Buffy circa-season 1). I should point out, she turns into a Giant and a Centaur in season 8 because (I THINK) she banged some kind of humanoid something or other. Rearrange these words: "Straws" "Grabbing" "At".

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By nomansland 1 July 1, 2010 08:09:05 AM

If you are trying to make a point, it doesn't hurt to check the facts: David Tennant met Georgia Moffett in the filming of The Doctor's Daughter.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Noddle 1 July 1, 2010 08:09:27 AM

Mind you, she did knock out Xander with a handy piece of chloroform-laced cloth, so kudos to her. Shame she did it WHILE HE WAS DRIVING THOUGH!

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Interference 1 July 1, 2010 08:12:23 AM

How about Rose from DW? Good in series 1, exruciating in every other appearance.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Robmac 1 July 1, 2010 08:15:30 AM

But they all have such pretty faces and nice smiles...and really isn't that enough! :-) (please...dont flame me!...joke!)

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By bobajim 1 July 1, 2010 08:53:02 AM

I never understood the Martha Jones thing. Why bring her character in and then get rid of her by the end of the same series? The loving the Doctor idea was bound to dry up rather quickly so why bother? Did they employ Freema and then decide they didn't like her, that she didn't fit in with the RTD gang? It's all very odd, unless she'd just decided she'd had enough after one season but who on earth would do that? Hell, if I was a companion I'd hang onto that role until they hurtled me to my death in an out of control space ship plummeting to the earth 65 million years in the past.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By geekygirlUK 1 July 1, 2010 09:15:24 AM

Thank you on the Marth Jones thing. It took me until Catherine Tate showed up to even like David Tennant as the Dr because he just didn't have the chemistry with the companions. With Rose it seemed forced right up until nearly the end. And Martha was just...lame. That whole thing about her saving the world while the Dr was captured by the Master just smacked of trying to give her a heroic finish.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Viridis 1 July 1, 2010 09:26:42 AM

I like Martha. She's cool, smart, feisty and romantic. With Dawn, she's whiny, weak, annoying, clumsy and stupid, but you have to put up with her because she's family. Real people don't quip in the face of evil. They scream and run. Dawn brought indeed youth and realism and sensitivity to the show. She made Buffy's character better. And about Dualla, she was just one in a long line of characters from BSG trying to find love, trying to get a happy ending, but they all fail, even when they get it. It's just real in the sense that we sometimes don't get what we want, especially in love. Especially in life.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By GoldbergV 1 July 1, 2010 09:43:51 AM

All the female characters on LOST could be on this list, only Juliet had any real depth but then in the s5 finale they had her try to reset the whole space-time continuum just because Saywer still had feelings for Kate(?!). Claire, Sun, Shannon, Anna-Lucia, Libby, all of them are just barely there archetypes with parent issues. I suppose Danielle was ok though. As for The X Files, Monica Reyes was way worse than Fowley

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By cordas2 1 July 1, 2010 11:21:33 AM

All the shows listed have had great female characters (well I suppose 4400 has, but as I have never seen the show...), the problem is that all to often TV execs seem to think pretty = ratings and then forget to do anything to make them interesting.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By olliebean 1 July 1, 2010 11:25:15 AM

Claire Bennet. Enough said.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Lachesis 1 July 1, 2010 11:25:59 AM

Martha is easily my favorite of Tennants assistants, her swooning is hardly evident and she was smart and useful without holding aloft Excalibur 2 and 'shouting for the honour of the timelords'. Its very strange to see her so reviled after the tugidly emo Rose or the thoroughly obnoxious Donna, but thems the breaks I guess.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By willturland 1 July 1, 2010 11:38:40 AM

It's good to see B5 get a mention on Den of Geek ... even if it is as an example of a way in which it was a bit rubbish! I think by season 5 JMS was writing as many episodes as possible (to save money), so be probably didn't have much time to develop new characters. Plus, who could have replaced Ivonova really? Also, to add something (although not much) to the Martha Jones debate: she was just awful wasn't she?

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Bassthang 1 July 1, 2010 12:23:27 PM

Danna was pretty good - a sassy modern British lad-ette with a lust for life and a wicked sense of humour. Easily the best companion of the modern Who run. I didn't like Catherine Tate's own comedy show, but this role changed my mind about her.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By explodingzebras 1 July 1, 2010 01:23:21 PM

Spot-on with Martha Jones, with her totally unconvincing acting, as if she would rise through the ranks, she reeks of hairdresser on a hen night. Most annoying companion ever.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Sarah_Jayne 1 July 1, 2010 01:24:05 PM

@willturland I like B5 apart from that character. Sure, it wasn't always the best acting in the world but then some of the actors were really good and the character development on most was great too. I just hated how pointless she was and particularly the 'oh they used to be married' thing. On Martha - I don't really get it either. They gave her a huge PR build up and they even found away to excuse that the actress had been in the show before (Torchwood London episode). So, why waste her as a character and get rid of her so soon?

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Sarah_Jayne 1 July 1, 2010 01:25:56 PM

@GoldbergV I loved Lost as a show but I pretty much agree with you. I decided to leave my rant about Kate off the list. It could take a whole article on its own.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By GoldbergV 1 July 1, 2010 03:01:10 PM

Haha Sarah Jayne, yeah I'm no Kate fan either. I should stop writing about LOST now though for fear of going on (yet another) rant about the ending. Its been 2 months, I have to let it go...

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By polyestercowboy 1 July 1, 2010 03:04:32 PM

Can I add Six from BSG and Seven of Nine from STV? Although both had (at different times and in different ways) relatively complicated characterisations, they were clearly added to their respective shows to give the fanboys something to put in their wank bank. I mean at points the Sixes (especially the goddam Head Six) almost turned BSG into that Evil Sex Robots From Outer Space show. And even though STV eventually gave Seven something to do (though it tended to be along the Spock/Data lines of showing the humans their humanity), couldn't they have replicated the poor women up some goddam clothes? I know the StarFleet unitard is hardly the most flattering of fashions but surely it beats banging around the Delta Quadrant for five years in a series of skin tight body suits chosen mainly for the ability to get geek boys off.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Sarah_Jayne 1 July 1, 2010 03:14:25 PM

Evil Sex Robots From Outer Space could have some potential as a series ...

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By polyestercowboy 1 July 1, 2010 03:21:07 PM

@SarahJayne1 - I hear Fox have already optioned it.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Sarah_Jayne 1 July 1, 2010 03:36:22 PM

I'm pretty sure it was the original pitch for Dollhouse.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By gakirin 1 July 1, 2010 04:26:17 PM

I feel like that's why they made Donna and Amy so spunky. Martha was so blah. They probably realized their mistake after watching their own work.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By SallyAlice 1 July 1, 2010 04:48:02 PM

Oh, Martha. I had such hopes that she was going to shake off the Unrequited Love trope after "Family of Blood" and start living up to her potential... and actually, I thought she was starting to do so, around the time of the season finale... when they cut her out. By the time she reappeared, she seemed to have lost her brilliance entirely :(

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By cordas2 1 July 1, 2010 04:48:25 PM

Six from BSG, seriously? I think you might be getting confused as to the point of this article... yeah she was scantily clad at times, but that doesn't male any odds with her character... Sexy women can be interesting you know ;-)

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Sarah_Jayne 1 July 1, 2010 05:12:13 PM

I don't care if the character is the most stereotypically beautiful woman in the world in hot pants if she is interesting beyond just her body.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By GoldbergV 1 July 1, 2010 06:04:53 PM

Yeah no way should 6 from BSG be on the list, its "disappointing" characters not overtly sexual ones. The reason Dee sticks out so much is cuz she's the only woman character who is just adjusted to suit the plot. Even Seelix had more character development.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By dave1159 1 July 1, 2010 06:26:18 PM

why is Martha a weak character just because she had strong feelings for The Doctor? what? Hello here on Planet Earth that does happen and surely the point was that it was unreqited love? which mad episodes like Family of Blood all the more poiniant. Freema was great in the role different from both Billie and Rose... if any Dr Who female should be on here it should be the annoying one dimensional Amy Duck Pond

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Viridis 1 July 1, 2010 07:05:28 PM

Don't diss the Pond! She's an excellent character, only lacking in character when Rory was erased from existence. She felt wrong then. She's better now. Now the duck pond regained its ducks she's complete again. She's awesome. She's by far the best companion.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By A1nostalgia 1 July 1, 2010 08:01:47 PM

Amy is certainly better companion than Donna. With Martha they could have had one of the most radical departures in the companion role and they wasted it. I feel a bit sorry for Freema as I think RTD was a bit too keen to cast Catherine Tate after the frankly awful 2006 Xmas special and so Martha's days were numbered... Agree too about Kochanski.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By rottenjohnny 1 July 1, 2010 09:13:12 PM

Gotta agree with you about Kochanski. The way Lister pined for her made it seem like she was practiclly the perfect woman, at least, until we met her for real. The Kochanski we were left with in later series was so annoying I really didn't see what the fuss was all about. As for Martha, I felt her character was fine, but was unceremoniously dumped after one season, and her farewell scene as a freelance agent failed on every level. Oh, and I feel it's a little harsh to judge Jenny on the strength of one episode.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By angim350 1 July 1, 2010 09:29:36 PM

Add Claire Bennett to the list. Her continous moaning brought down the 4th season of Heroes epically (and her obvious rating grabbing lesbian storyline).

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By rottenjohnny 1 July 1, 2010 10:31:04 PM

re: angim350. Claire's fling with lesbianism wasn't quite rating-grabbing enough though. Unlike the Willow and Tara relationship (Kennedy just doesn't cut it)most lesbian couplings seem shoe-horned in, and yes, even straight male viewers can see through this. Case in point, Janis in Flashforward.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By ta_scott 1 July 2, 2010 01:45:25 AM

Yes Martha was pretty bad and the whole doe-eyed "I love you Doctor" thing just pissed me off, I'm surprised you haven't noted Amy Pond... probably one of the worst companions who does nothing but sulk, act blasé, and try to look "sexy".

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Codgin 1 July 2, 2010 08:43:33 AM

how could you miss off Claire from Heroes, sure season 1 her tennage problems (Which ranged from rape to her physcotic father she knew near nothing about) but after that she just whinged and wined season after season, she became a lesiban and she was still boring, how bad must a charchter be for that to happen?? lol

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Codgin 1 July 2, 2010 08:44:38 AM

about) were intresting and entertaining*

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By cerveloguy 1 July 2, 2010 10:06:23 AM

Actually Kara Thrace and Roslain annoyed me, whereas Six and Boomer were great. In Voyager Cptn Janeway or whatever was very annoying and pompus and the cheerleader was worth saving because her of very pretty face...

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By DamonD 1 July 2, 2010 12:03:42 PM

Disagree about Dawn, very much agree about Jenny and Kochanski! I'm not even going to talk about the actresses playing her, just having Kochanski join the 'Boys from the Dwarf' was a boneheaded idea in the first place and they wrote her as a humourless killjoy just to compound the error. As for Martha, just wasted potential...she could've been the best Tennant companion, but it was thrown away for lovelorn mooning, such a shame.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By R-type 1 July 2, 2010 03:30:31 PM

Whatever happened to Martha's husband anyway? the one she was banging on about in the Sontaran Stratagem? the next time we see her, that guy is OH WAIT never mentioned again she's married to mickey? uh. what?

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Hazgibbon 1 July 2, 2010 03:47:13 PM

I reckon good female characters is something Battlestar was good at, Roslin in particular. All the female characters in Lost where just there to create tension for the male cast or fill a stereotype. Especially Kate (don't get me started) I thoguth Dawn was introduced brilliantly, but I soon tired of her whining. She works as a point of comparison for younger Buffy and responsible, world weary Buffy but she was never as whiny or demanding as Dawn. I agree about all the Martha stuff, she was just a dull character and all the Doctor pining annoys me, I could handle Rose doing it, but the companion after her should have tried something different. (It bugs me with Amy too, but its a different type of relationship with her) Claire became a lesbian? I need to watch that season :D. Yeh she irritated me with her whining too. Maya and Alejandro were just really repetitive and uninteresting after 2 eps imo.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Geordie2004 1 July 2, 2010 06:19:01 PM

Yeah, really don't get how Claire didn't make this list... But it's obviously all subjective.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By slsmile10 1 July 2, 2010 06:25:20 PM

Interesting how it just so happens that half of these are women of color. If you're going to put Martha on here for her crush, you can put Rose (the white female) for the same thing. You put Dee on here but Cally (a white female who was disappointing on the same levels) is omitted. Nice list made of misogny and covert racism. THIS LIST IS INVALID, THX.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By omegaman 1 July 2, 2010 11:09:46 PM

Sorry slsmile but I hate it when ppl look for racism that isn’t there. Freema is beautiful and talented IMO but Martha sucked. Rose = white working class girl + crush on Doctor. Martha = black middle class girl + crush on Doctor. RTD played safe and repeated a formula which failed 2nd time round.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By GoldbergV 1 July 2, 2010 11:16:38 PM

Since when is 4 out of 10 "half"? And Cally's story on BSG is pretty good and tragic when you think about it. But I liked the way they offed Dee so what do I know? (I agree that as a character she was pretty useless though)

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By PeytonLeigh 1 July 3, 2010 02:39:59 PM

While I find your opinions interesting, please, at least fact-check. "Jenny" from Doctor Who's name is Georgia Moffett NOT Georgina Moffat, who is a completely different person.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Tlotoxl 1 July 4, 2010 06:14:29 PM

How about all the B7 girls apart from Servalan? the Crew of the Liberator were particually poor, 1 maybe 2 good episodes but Cally, Jenna, Soolin and Dayna all failed to consistantly make an impact after their first episodes.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By Eryndil 1 July 4, 2010 11:42:06 PM

I agree that the Martha Jones role was a waste of an intelligent female character (until she appeared on Torchwood anyway!) Spot on about the whiny Dawn Summers and pointless Kochanski as well. Can't agree about Jenny in the Doctor's Daughter though. She was sassy and interesting - I'd like to see more about that character.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By ILUVSIX8 1 July 5, 2010 01:57:39 AM

The person who thought SIX & SEVEN OF NINE should be on the list is on the wrong forum ..go back to watching reality TV or whatever it is that you watch ..Sci-fi isn't one of them

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By michaelbush 1 July 5, 2010 03:42:16 PM

Some good points, well made, but I don't like the assumption that a female character has to be an ass-kicking Xena in order to be interesting; I've found the contrary to be the case, as it goes. Forced relationship with Lee aside, there's a lot more to Dualla than just standing about in headphones: it's easy to forget she saved Starbuck on Kobol, soon after finding out that she'd been having an affair with Lee.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By geekmom 1 July 8, 2010 05:28:24 PM

Can't believe Counselor Deanna Troi didn't make this list. Talk about a waste of space. "I sense that he's angry, Captain." No shit, Sherlock, what tipped you off? The red face, shouting, and pulsing vein in his temple? She could have been truly interesting, instead she was just a bad pop psychologist, there to spout whatever moral we were supposed to learn this week. What made it worse was that they occasionally gave her a really interesting story, and then fell right back into the bad old ways.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By slsmile10 1 July 14, 2010 09:12:47 AM

Considering there's barely any women of color in sci-fi anyway, it's noticeable when those few women are put on a list of disappointing females for the EXACT same "sins" their white counterparts commit. And no, I'm not looking for racism that doesn't exist omegaman...fandom in general, is misogynistic and covertly racist. As a minority female, I notice that. One day I just hope to see a list of ten disappointing males...but that's not bound to happen. I was indifferent to Rose, RTD's little Mary-Sue, so Martha was a pleasant change. I hated her crush b/c RTD got to use that to say "Oh Martha will never be as good/awesome as Rose" So saying Martha sucked when RTD was writing her as inferior to Rose (he admitted that) doesn't work. Thanks for playing.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By slsmile10 1 July 14, 2010 09:19:43 AM

Cally's retcon into a adulterer, her husband being a misogynistic jerk about her after her death was not good or tragic GoldbergV. Dee's death..how pathetic. They needed to make a point about how the fleet felt about Earth so they had the black woman blow her brains out. She had no agency of her own. Gah.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By KageFuusha 1 July 19, 2010 09:59:08 PM

To Noddle 1 Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV Posted By Noddle 1 July 1, 2010 08:09:27 AM Mind you, she did knock out Xander with a handy piece of chloroform-laced cloth, so kudos to her. Shame she did it WHILE HE WAS DRIVING THOUGH! This is incorrect. Xander chloroformed Dawn. To knock out Xander, Dawn used a stun gun to his neck.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By blkscifiguy 1 July 30, 2010 04:31:52 AM

Regarding DW, Companions, MArtha Jones, and What the Hell Happened, IMHO, someone recognized it was a mistake to let the romance between Rose and DW become so strong. This is why the recent companions, starting with MJ, romantic interest in TD have been downplayed.

Re: The 10 most disappointing female characters in sci-fi TV
Posted By blkscifiguy 1 July 30, 2010 04:34:56 AM

Also, MARTHA JONES ROCKS!
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