8. Time
Hopefully, you should all be glad to hear that this is a very, very geeky episode. The episode is called Time, so it should be obvious to all reading this just why that is.
A large group of the team arrive on an alien planet to find food to restock Destiny with, but when one of the team falls sick the team become stranded on the planet by their own protocol. When most of the team die in a brutal alien attack, we learn that these events were recorded onto a Kino and that the same team are safe back on the Destiny, watching it all unfold. Of course, they aren't dead, and they're very confused.
Considering the episode title, we can guess what happened, as do they, quickly, and the episode shifts back to the emotional resonance that the events on the alien planet caused. As they watch the situation unfold via the Kino, the sickness starts to affect people on board Destiny who came into contact with the team who collected the device from the planet.
As the Kino is very much Eli's pet, we get a lot of chances to see him in the spotlight, getting a lot more information of his mother's condition and his character's back-story. David Blue shines in his reaction back on Destiny at hearing himself talking about very personal things.
Slowly, Blue is more and more becoming one of the defining reasons to watch Stargate Universe and truly showing his full potential. If there was any doubt, a bedside performance later in the episode becomes one of the most touching scenes in the past seven weeks of SGU, and a pivotal moment in Eli's character.
He's not the only one who lets their character grow, though, and in many respects all involved get a chance to shine. I may say his name every week, but it's worth pointing out that Robert Carlyle continues to stride ahead with every episode, using this week's to let some of his lighter side through, to great effect. Brian J. Smith, too, gets a good chance to show himself for the first time since Air Part 3 and pours his performance into every emotional scene he can get his hands on.
What's great about this episode is that it shows how the showrunners have learned how to make something that is heavily leaning on a sci-fi plot seem like it's not just that. It uses elements of horror and drama to create its own inventive plotline that feels fresh in a way that other Stargate series had started to take for granted. It shows real growth on the part of director and writer Robert C Cooper, who also uses the episode to explore the new camera technique provided by the Kino (he talks about that in our inteview with him here).
In the final few moments of the episode, you would expect everything to die down as the storyline comes to an end and we see the characters return to their quarters, weary from the day, as we have seen in a good few of the previous instalments. Instead, the action and story is ramped up, and the end leaves you with almost no resolution of the plot, leaving you to work it out for yourself.
It's smart, because it shows the respect for its fanbase that may have been overlooked previously, and it left me with my heart in my mouth, fearing the worst.
Truly, I've never felt like any of the characters in previous Stargate series were all that vulnerable, but with this incarnation, I feel that at any given time, someone could be killed off. This has given the show an edge over a lot of shows which put their characters in harm's way every week with no real intention of ever killing them off and it means there's a lot more to care about with SGU and its cast.
In every possible way, Time is the strongest episode of Stargate Universe yet. It has everything in spades: it has the drama that has been building since the pilot, the horror that we have only seen glimpses of so far, the humour in the face of danger that has been sorely lacking, the balls that have so far been hiding just out of sight and the emotional resonance that every character carries with them on their faces.
This week, everyone involved in Stargate Universe handed in a stellar performance, and Time is truly a defining episode for the series that will be a very difficult one to top.
Check out our review of episode 7 here. Stargate Universe is showing in the UK on Sky1 and Sky1 HD every Tuesday.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Forecaster 1 November 16, 2009 01:11:50 PM
Right on! This was a great episode. I was thinking about star trek and thought if I really cared about anyone in any of the episodes..and the answer was no..I always knew in the end they would be laughing in Quarks Bar or 10 forward. But this, this is gritty and unpredictable and great acting. Anything could happen and great continuity on the episodes too. Thanks for the review.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By starlight 1 November 16, 2009 01:18:59 PM
What a terrible episode!
My God, I heard "Time" and I was like "damn...not again".
After "1969", "2010", "Moebius", "Stargate Continuum", "Last Man Standing" .... there is yet another time-travel episode.
Also, the opening sentence from Eli was bullshit. Eli (to Chloe): "Your first alien planet. Everything you expected?" What about the planet from where they gated? This was the first alien planet, but the Drama-queens seems to have forgotten this.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By starlight 1 November 16, 2009 01:19:51 PM
Stargate Universe is surely a waste of time. The plot is boring to the end. Nothing really happens and acting sucks. Damn, Dallas had better drama, then SGU. Characters are generally annoying and there is no character that is actually likable.
The target audience is bi-curious public (Drama + Scifi) with emphasis on (mostly exaggerated) drama. The Kinos provide the Big-Brother feeling we all "love". And the shaking camera is the prove that aliens, who can build Faster Then Light spaceships, can not produce proper cameras.
The worst actress is definitely Chloe, who always acts like a child. The name of the ship is "Destiny", so I like to think of her as "Destiny's Child".
All-in-All: 0 out of 10 stars.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 16, 2009 03:18:17 PM
Obviously, I really enjoyed this episode, and the planet from which they gated wasn't an alien planet. In fact it was inhabited by humans before they even got there. It was colonized. This, however, was a planet, with aliens, that as far as they knew, no human had ever been to. As for starlight, are you saying theres no room in the sci-fi community for drama? I think that's a horrible thought, to think that a never ending plethora of mindless sci-fi shows would just churn out endless sci-fi without any feel feelings behind it. It must be a small world you live in, what with your no drama sci-fi, which must barely exist: 'Oh fuck off, you're not supposed to care about one another! To hell with this, I'm off to play Halo.' And to be fair to the ancients, I'm pretty sure they built the best tiny floating cameras they could about 10,000 years ago, I don't see you making anything better! Jeezo, oh-so cynical masses, why don't you go and watch re-runs of Star Trek TOS instead of trying to enjoy a good, new sci-fi series which moves with the times, and still produces great sci-fi episodes?
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 16, 2009 03:19:08 PM
*any real feelings
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By jammer46 1 November 16, 2009 03:38:15 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed episode 8 as I have all the others. I don't understand all the negative comments from starlight 1. Lighten up or better yet why torture yourself watch something else! Can't wait for the next show.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By RobGordon23 1 November 16, 2009 06:07:06 PM
Considering what is on TV, I'm surprised of all the hatred this show seems to generate. What would you rather watch? Dr. Who? Lost? The Sarah Connor...never mind about that one. I'm not sure what exactly is considered a good show then, so I've come up with a solution. I'LL keep watching this show because I think it's good. If you don't like, when this show does come on, go waste your time watching '2012' or something along those lines since your taste clearly leans more towards generic garbage.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Forecaster 1 November 16, 2009 06:23:07 PM
A lot of sites have negative reviews about the show, maybe its the same one person. I know they are wrong. I watched a lot of sci-fi and also I have a good group of professionals who watch too (we are not in our 20s. This is a well done show. If it moved every week with Aliens fights and "shields up" - we would hear 'what about the ship, the challenges of food, water, energy' The show feels like it will be going for the long haul - Im in for it!
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By starlight 1 November 16, 2009 07:30:29 PM
ok, if I consider something bad, then I'm am allowed to say that, am I not? Are you really trying to tell me not to speak my mind? And why do you think that I "hate" the show?
I'm also not in my 20s and being a movie fan, I consider myself to have seen pretty much. In MY opinion, SGU does not offer nothing new, nothing worth seing. I dont care if the drama is on a spaceship, if its good. And honestly SGU does do a terrible job. When I look at the characters, I dont really care what happens to them. This is what I call bad movie-drama. And this ddefinately does not mean, that I'm feelingless! My wife wouldnt agree either.
You guys should really work on your way of dealing with people, which do not share your opinion!
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By RobGordon23 1 November 16, 2009 09:19:50 PM
@starlight...after expressing such vehement hatred, I'm surprised that you didn't expect it in return. Express your opinion in any way all you want, just expect someone else's opinion to come back in a similar fashion. I think that you should really take my idea to heart - if you don't like it, don't watch it. Then you won't have to take the time to express things like 'Stargate Universe is surely a waste of time' and you won't have to read things like 'It must be a small world you live in, what with your no drama sci-fi, which must barely exist' which you seem to take offence to.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By starlight 1 November 16, 2009 10:30:41 PM
Rob, how stupid are you exactly? People like you are disgrace for the internet community. May be you should go back to the hole where you came from. You couldn't be more wrong, but hey why should I care? If you're dumb, then I wont tell you this. After all... "if you don't like it, don't watch it". This is great!!! Well, let me think... I don't like whales being killed -> "don't watch it". I don't like the war in Iraq -> "don't watch it". I don't like the communist regime in North Korea -> "don't watch it". Yes, Rob! With your precious 23 years you've found the wisdom of the ages! "if you don't like it, don't watch it."!! It's THAT simple!
Now go fuck yourself!
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 16, 2009 10:46:51 PM
The whales, Iraq and The communist regime in N. Korea aren't on a Sci-Fi Drama show, that's real life, in case you didn't know. Real life should always be treated with a great deal more sense. I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, hell my reviews are all about my opionions. You just shouldn't spew utter bullshit and not expect to get called on it.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By jammer46 1 November 17, 2009 12:01:25 AM
I am not a prude by any means but starlight 1 needs to either clean up his language or be banned from the chiming in his vile worded opinion. Many sites don't allow profanity maybe den of geeks should adopt that policy
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By johnsimpton 1 November 17, 2009 02:09:46 AM
Yes there is room for a bit of Drama but not drama all the time. I want to know more about destiny, it's capability, repairing the ship, taking control of the ship, new technologies - not Telford now screwing Young's wife and Eli, Chloe & Lt Scott love triangle and the sexual tension between Young & Johansen.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By bobsuncorp 1 November 17, 2009 02:44:12 AM
I am absolutely loving this show, but I do have a couple of little niggles. First I can't help but feel that they are trying to be too much like BSG. Now this is not a bad thing exactly because being "inspired" by such a sterling work of tv has resulted in another one - when taken on its own. But when I think about the show I can't help but feel like I am watching Ronald D Moore's take on SG1, and it detracts from my enjoyment. 2nd - nothing has really happened yet. The creators are obviously favouring the "slow burn" method of story telling, and each episode is tense and gripping, but again, when I think about how much has actually happened since the pilot, the answer is: not a whole hell of a lot.
Finally while the idea of having people on this mission who aren't really qualified for it is excellent because it ramps up the realism, I am starting to miss the McKay method of storytelling where a genius comes up with a perfect solution to a problem, making you proud that he is the representative of our race in this fictional world. While the Destiny crew's achievements are greater because they are not as qualified, those achievements need to me more spectacular for me to really be impressed. So far we only have Eli calculating the manouvers necessary to rescue the others in space. This is something Mckay would have done IN HIS HEAD while arguing with Sheppard about how it was unfair to expect him to do it, that is before he goes on to create Wormhole Drive (sorry, still bitter about that). Insert paragraph breaks as you see fit.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By RobGordon23 1 November 17, 2009 03:20:38 AM
Thank you stuxmusic...I couldn't have put that better myself.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 17, 2009 10:59:52 AM
No probs rob. I get where you're coming from bob. I watched an episode of Atlantis yestersay and I was struck by just how quickly they figured out what was wrong and how to fix it, but then again, that did take away some of the tension. You knew they were smart enough to come out of it alive, every time (with a few hiccups), and to me that means I'm not sitting on the edge of my chair every week. With BSG I was always there, gripping my pillow... with the exception of the black market episode of course. So I for one welcome that they are trying to be like BSG. Of course, I'd rather they were trying to be more like Firefly. It's funny, Moore turned up in an episode of CSI playing a shouting fanboy. Someone had taken 'Star Trek' or something similar and turned it dark, like this show has. Anyway, Yeah I do see where you're coming from and I do actually agree in small doses, but hopefully with time they can iron some of those out. As for John, The drama is one of the main focuses of the show, and it's why they have Robert Carlyle on board, he only joined the cast because they mentioned the word drama in the call sheet. I do think it can be heavy at times, but we are watching what SGU showrunners intended us to watch, so it's not like it's going to change. I like drama-fueled films/TV elsewhere so why not in my sci-fi?
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By R-type 1 November 17, 2009 08:15:26 PM
I didn't really enjoy this episode. I get the premise and everything, I just dont think it was handled too well.
But then, this show isnt really aimed at me I guess, I loved atlantis, i just dont really enjoy Stargate:Angst.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By R-type 1 November 17, 2009 08:28:27 PM
Also, guys up there, calm down! I prefer doctor who because it seems to take itself less seriously, and it has likeable characters. [something I'm struggling to find in SG:U, but mostly I think thats because the show takes itself more seriously, that people are more inclined to react harshly because of that.] Plus im sure the british thing factors in since I'm from there, and the long history is something I like that it taps into. Stargate has a great history and some brilliant characters, but this series seems to try and pull away from that for the majority, and try and pull in new people to science fiction. Its not a bad thing, but it might annoy some of you diehards. Personally Im gonna give it one season, see how it plays out, if not, drop it. Which is looking likely, but its no big deal.
also, SG:U had an episode where the ship was dying and they used the communication stones not to swap places with carter or mckay to let them fix it, but to visit love interests, which annoyed the hell out of me :P but thats just me wanting cameos and a return to the atlantis formula of "so lets fix it and get along" which this show clearly isnt. I'm not gonna bash this for being different to Atlantis, I can always go back and watch that. which I might do. Rodney is awesome.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Omniaural 1 November 17, 2009 09:14:57 PM
the whole premise of SGU is, in essence, a single episode for the SG1 or Atlantis crews. As mentioned they woudl solve things quite quickly which is why I ended up giving up on the SG franchise. SGU's take is more in line with what I want to see from a 'noughties' sci-fi drama. BSG has set a new template for doing this kind of show, just as SG made the Star Trek format look tired in the beginning. These shows evolve and I expect to watch SGU for at least the next two-three seasons before I get fed up. Unless they start writing a bunch of crap. BTW, did this episode really end like that or does it continue next week. If that's it then I applaud them for it and look forward to having more expectations shattered. FlashForward take note.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Omniaural 1 November 17, 2009 09:14:57 PM
the whole premise of SGU is, in essence, a single episode for the SG1 or Atlantis crews. As mentioned they woudl solve things quite quickly which is why I ended up giving up on the SG franchise. SGU's take is more in line with what I want to see from a 'noughties' sci-fi drama. BSG has set a new template for doing this kind of show, just as SG made the Star Trek format look tired in the beginning. These shows evolve and I expect to watch SGU for at least the next two-three seasons before I get fed up. Unless they start writing a bunch of crap. BTW, did this episode really end like that or does it continue next week. If that's it then I applaud them for it and look forward to having more expectations shattered. FlashForward take note.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Tippon 1 November 17, 2009 11:01:34 PM
I quite enjoyed this episode. The show's starting to pick up some pace, and this was not just about sitting around moping about a small problem.
The only downside for me was the predictability - when you see regular characters dying off quietly in an episode involving time travel, then you know that something's gonna happen to bring them back. Looking forward to next week though :)
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 18, 2009 12:14:34 AM
Omniaural, that's how it ends, I've just had a look at ep 9 :P
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By TheScarecrow 1 November 18, 2009 03:05:05 PM
***SPOILER ALERT***! Stop reading if you haven't seen the ep. You have been warned.
Anyway, just caught this ep on the DVR last night, and was confused (it was also 2am)...
If the lethal illness was caused by a microbe in the ice from the water planet, why did they have to retrieve a specimen from the jungle planet to save the ill? Did I miss something?
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By TheScarecrow 1 November 18, 2009 03:06:21 PM
err, reverse "ice" and "water" in my post. Not enough coffee yet.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By Omniaural 1 November 18, 2009 03:57:00 PM
The ship definitely seems to have some level of sentience and senses the needs of the crew. It must have stopped by this planet as it knew about the illness and therefore found a cure for them. I'm guessing this is something that will develop through the series. @Tippon I found it far from predictable in the way they handled time travel. Certainly for a SG episode, which has had its fair share. Just the removal of a simple tradition, such as, the 'everything is ok at the end' type ending that would normally wrap up each show indicates that they're happy to leave you hanging and figure it out. I certainly felt like it was by no means certain. THe fact that SG can inject that sort of doubt this late in the franchise shows that they are onto a good thing here. I still want to wait to see if the premise has any legs but as yet its better executed than many shows on atm.
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By johnsimpton 1 November 19, 2009 02:24:14 AM
stuxmusic - I love R.Carlyle don't get me wrong and his character Dr Rush is absolutely awesome. You got to admit that the love triangle and sexual tension is a bit day time soap tv....
Re: Stargate Universe episode 8 review
Posted By stuxmusic 1 November 19, 2009 09:42:20 AM
johnsimpson - no. no, I don't. Sure, if you just look at it and say 'it's a love triangle' it might feel 'daytime tv' but what you really have is one girl, who is interested in one guy. But wait, there is another guy interested in the girl. Is she interested in him? No. She isn't torn between the two, and neither is eli, so theres no love triangle stuff. The sexual tension on the other hand is actually dealt with quite well, I'd say. Mainly because there's a fair bit of sex going on. Those who know it's going on and aren't getting it, are sure to feel some sexual tension. Why avoid it? Hell, there was sexual tension all the way through SG-1 and SGA. O'neill and Carter, Rodney and Keller, even Shepard and Teyla! but with the majority of time devoted to storylines which didn't include time for a whole lot of sex, they always came last, some not getting together at all (on screen). So with this they have the chance to make attractive people bump uglies. And why not? First though, you need some sexual tension.