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Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review

Simon Brew


It wouldn't be Christmas without the Doctor Who Christmas special. And this year's was a good 'un. Here's our spoiler-filled review...

Published on Dec 24, 2011


This review contains spoilers.

The fact that the last series of Doctor Who only finished in October means that we’ve not had the traditional wait of several months for the annual Christmas special. And, perhaps as a consequence of that, it feels as though expectations for it have been a little lower. That it might just be being taken for granted a little bit.

Leave it to Steven Moffat, then, to issue a warm reminder of just what a lovely part of the festive celebrations the annual Doctor Who special can be, with a pretty much standalone story.

As it turned out, The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe was, for all of its wonderful production work, quite a contained tale, that of Madge Arwell. 

Madge, played wonderfully well by Claire Skinner, is faced with putting on a brave face for Christmas, for the sake of her children, Cyril and Lily. Her conundrum is that the story is set during the war, and Madge has received a telegram, informing her that her husband is missing, presumed dead. Her plan to withhold this information from her children, to ensure they have the best possible Christmas, is a haunting and loving one. 

But naturally, any plan where the Doctor crashes into the midst of it is bound to veer off course.

So it proves, in an opening 20 minutes or so that demonstrates just how wonderfully well Matt Smith plays comedy. For the last few episodes of series six, Smith’s Doctor was carrying the weight of what was to come, and there are still nods to what he’s been through, and what he now faces, through Steven Moffat’s script. However, there’s also a sense that he’s been given something of a day off, and the way that he rips through the guided tour of the house, with particular focus on the best children’s bedroom you could wish for, was gloriously good fun.

The Doctor Who Christmas special, as both Moffat and Russell T Davies have noted over the years, is a slightly different beast. Accepting that a large bulk of people watch it after a bloated day, and not short of either sugar-laden or alcoholic beverages, its tone tends to be just a little lighter. Moffat works that very much in his favour, but doesn’t shy away from the darkness in the background. Madge’s choice is never far away.

It’s the Doctor operating without a companion for the duration of The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe, too, and this also seems to free him up just a little. The closest he gets to sidekicks are Cyril and Lily and, not for the first time, Moffat writes his younger characters wonderfully well. The economy of dialogue for Cyril proves to be a great choice, as young Maurice Cole conveys more in a wide-eyed look than any collection of words could. Credit, too, to director Farren Blackburn for bringing the most out of the younger members of his talented cast.

It’s the first half of the episode where it’s arguably at its strongest, but that doesn’t mean there’s too much to pick at once the children crawl through the mysterious present (where did it come from, incidentally?) and head into Doctor Who’s nod to the land of Narnia.

Here’s where the screen fills with some enchanting visuals, not least trees that appear to grow Christmas baubles. It’s almost a pity when the slightly more traditional Doctor Who story kicks in, when ‘monsters’ appear and the threat escalates. But this is Moffat-era Who, where apparent monsters have reasons for what they’re doing, and the nature of just who the actual monster is, once more, is called into question. 

The creatures this time, made of wood, I found eerily effective, although the least interesting part of the episode. I think, though, that’s because the Arwells are just far more intriguing people to be around, and the moments where the focus shifts away from them are felt. 

If you were being picky, which I suppose I am, then you could say that the reasoning behind the desire to flee the forest is a very straightforward one. Yet it services the story well enough. I do think it’s a real pity that the trio of troops weren’t used more. When I first heard that Bill Bailey in particular was appearing in Doctor Who, it was a good day. Sadly, he just doesn’t get enough screen time here, and I’d dearly have loved to see more of him.

The most divisive part of the episode, and bringing back slight memories of The Next Doctor, is when Claire Skinner gets at the controls of something left over from one of Michael Bay’s Transformers movies. It’s deliriously daft, and for me it works, because before anyone can take the whole thing too seriously, the thing does a pratfall onto the ground.

It’s all building up to a warm, emotional ending, of course, and this was handled logically and well. Most of us, I suspect, felt that Madge might find a way to save her husband by the time The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe drew to a close (it is Christmas, after all), and so it proved. It meant that the episode didn’t shirk the moment where the children realised that their father might be gone, but allowed the Arwell’s story to end on a warm, rather than a tragic note.

This all left space at the end for the Doctor to find his own happy ending of sorts, where we learn that two years have passed since he saw Amy and Rory last. The moment on the doorstep, with the Doctor and Amy refusing to hug each other, was a lovely touch, well played. And it seems fitting that the loneliest man in the universe got some well deserved Christmas lunch at the end of quite a tumultuous year for him.

The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe marks the last time we’ll see the Doctor until next Autumn, and he’s in an intriguing place. Most people think he’s dead, his time with the Ponds appears to be growing ever shorter, and there’s still the big question of who he actually is remaining unanswered.

For now, though, it was a treat to have a gentle, well told, standalone story, that proved you don’t have to veer away from an emotive and adventurous story, just because it’s Christmas time. 

A lovely piece of television, and a smashing way to spend a Christmas night in front of the telly. Pass the turkey sandwiches...

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Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By roncook 1 December 25, 2011 08:12:09 PM

Promising start and some nice bits, but overall disappointing. More Bill Bailey and the Androzani soldiers would have been nice. Loved the ending with the Ponds.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By narcolyptic 1 December 25, 2011 08:12:26 PM

Did they forget to do background replacement in a couple of scenes? Good ep all round but would've liked a bit more knowledge to the moffets logic.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By fermanaghcon 1 December 25, 2011 08:22:28 PM

Plus Points It was nice to see a return to the Adrozani system Bill Bailey Matt Smith Negative Points Even with his Time Lord respiratory bypass system, I thought the way that the Doctor was in the vaccuum of space at the start quite silly, The story was a bit pants Alexander Armstrong's pilot character didn't talk in street

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By messmike 1 December 25, 2011 08:25:49 PM

By far the best bit of Christmas telly in recent years.. Moffat & co, take a bow! Bring on Autumn.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By kymera 1 December 25, 2011 08:36:04 PM

Yes, it was ridiculous. Yes, the story wasn't particularly meaty. And, yes, it was utterly, utterly wonderful. It's Doctor Who, of course it's ridiculous. Loved it.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Barchester 1 December 25, 2011 08:37:38 PM

I thought it was glorious from start to finish. Absolutely wonderful. Not enough Bill Bailey though, but you can't have everything.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By EmperorMonkey 1 December 25, 2011 09:57:45 PM

Boo to all the grumpy-pants out there - that was utterly magical and the spirit of Christmas.. "Hammocks!", "knitwear & weapons" and absolutley the moment where the Doctor tells Cyril that his Mother won't be coming this time and the she turns up in the Rig.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Norton77 1 December 25, 2011 10:08:57 PM

That was just mawkish emotional manhandling at its very worst. Urgh. Matt Smith did brilliantly, as did all the actors involved, but it was just a throwaway festive story that had an obviously guessable ending and... oh, you know what, who cares? It's Doctor Who, the fans will praise it as brilliant and dismiss anyone else. I'm off to eat my own weight in Quality Street.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Monkey_thumbz 1 December 25, 2011 10:52:29 PM

Better than any of the RTD Christmas specials but not a patch on last year! I also found the score somewhat intrusive. The ending was good though

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Agrajag 1 December 25, 2011 11:52:49 PM

Doctor surviving space, Madge running through acid rain, Armstrong asking no questions about disappearing boxes, it was all a bit written after a bottle if wine. Matt Smith still marvellous

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Discrespective 1 December 26, 2011 06:07:21 AM

Yeah, I thought it was special sort of awesome especially the first fifteen minutes where he has his helmet on backwards, that was hilarious ! That was hardcase ! Classic Doctor Who ! Then there's the ending ! Fucking kick awesome episode ! ;-D

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Discrespective 1 December 26, 2011 06:09:32 AM

Yeah, I thought this year Doctor Who Christmas Special Episode was special sort of awesome especially the first fifteen minutes where he has his helmet on backwards, that was hilarious ! That was hardcase ! Classic Doctor Who ! Then there's the ending ! Fucking kick awesome episode of Doctor Who ! So makes up for last year with the shark ! That shark was shit ! ;-D

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By bigdunc 1 December 26, 2011 08:58:06 AM

I rewatched last years special this week and it was much better than i recalled, i suspect the same may be true for this one it was a nice enough story and had some very funny lines. I do wonder why the portal was there in the first place, its suggested the Doctor put it there but never made clear why. I always love when shows end on an emotional note and the Doctors happy crying was a beautiful end,good stuff but after such a long year full of unrelenting questions im glad its getting a break for a while. On a side note I got the brilliant book 2012 from Santa, utterly fantastic, a perfect companion to the last series if youre a fan I cant recommend it enough.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By OldBadger 1 December 26, 2011 09:06:32 AM

That was brilliant. Great Christmas Special, thoroughly enjoyable, thoroughly Doctor Who and thoroughly Chrismassy too. Bravo to everyone, especially Claire Skinner (mother Christmas indeed!) and to Matt Smith, who proving to be an awesome Doctor. No more Who till Autumn? Oh noooo!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By OldBadger 1 December 26, 2011 09:24:02 AM

Good point, bigdunc. The fanboys are out to get both Matt Smith and Moffatt because they aren't David Tennant and RTD (not that they liked RTD - too gay for them). I thought last year's was surreally beautiful - I loved it at the time and it has stuck around in my mind ever since. I loved this one too, and since I prefer happy endings, it will probably rate higher in my all time great list. That won't stop the Scrooges and their chorus of bah humbugs, but that's their problem. Wouldn't be them for anything.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By lozzer 1 December 26, 2011 11:04:18 AM

I don't mean to seem mean but that really didn't work for me. The first 15 minutes were more frantic than a Timmy Mallet kids TV show and nearly caused me to give up watching it - the rest was just meh - and I'm sick of that sonic screwdriver being waved around at every single opportunity. I'm really glad we have a big break now as I need to muster up my waning enthusiasm for the show.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By pete3206 1 December 26, 2011 12:46:45 PM

Loved it. Better than last year's mess.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Zokko 1 December 26, 2011 02:15:35 PM

Last year's Scrooge rip-off was dire, but this was fairly dire. So now the Doctor is able to fall through space without burning up in Earth's atmosphere? He'll be leaping from planet to planet without the aid of the Tardis next. The Doctor falling out of a hammock was horribly embarrassing - like something out of a Norman Wisdom film. I hate stories where the Doctor is in control of events or has prior knowledge of them. Its just not 'Dr.Who'. The lessons of the Nathan-Turner era have not been learned. Moffat has run out of ideas - he has now resorted to ripping off old children's books. Next year he'll probably team up the Doctor with Enid Blyton's Noddy.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Chippie 1 December 26, 2011 02:18:42 PM

Awful. Someone really needs to point out to these guys that expository dialogue is not good story telling! No-one watches Dr Who to watch the Doctor explain everything with a sonic screwdriver for 30 minutes while he's waving it around! It's a shame because the production and acting were actually quite good.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By sahughes54 1 December 26, 2011 04:17:44 PM

Why do "fans" like Zokko bother watching modern day Doctor Who?

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By PhantomChief 1 December 26, 2011 05:36:01 PM

I liked it, although it wasn't as good as last years. The pacing was a bit off, and I thought that they could have had some wonderful character to character moments while chasing Cyril. It was a shame we didn't get more of Bill Bailey and Arabella Wier. In reponse to Zokka, I believe that Moffat likes to create episodes full of ideas and put them into one episode. This one had the time to allow those ideas to breathe but instead I think we spent a little too much time in the lighthouse structure, instead of fleshing out these ideads while chasing Cyril, it would have made that part a bit more interesting.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Agrajag 1 December 26, 2011 06:12:22 PM

I just don't believe Stephen Moffat knows how to write Science Fiction in as much as he does not stick to any agreed laws, character traits or rules. The doctor can do anything, the baddies have thinly thought out plans with seemingly no motivation, the stories define rules which are consistently broken. Only by sticking to a ruleset on some areas can suspension of disbelief exist. The doctor cannot survive space. End of last season was a great disappointment with a get out of jail free card worse than a reset button from RTD because it promised so much more.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Headache2112 1 December 26, 2011 07:18:20 PM

I think with this Christmas episode, Moffat most definitely did remember that a large portion of the audience is children. Thinking over the episode, I've been attempting to see it as I would have when I was a child. I could easily have identified with the little boy. The boy's father is no longer there, having gone to war. It's Christmastime, always so exciting. He's brought by his Mother, along with his sister, to a gigantic creepy house in the middle of nowhere. There's a bizarre, manic man there who obviously loves to have fun. Chairs move by themselves in this house. The "Christmas room" is overpoweringly enchanting. The Christmas tree with airplanes circling is amazing. There's a scary flight of stairs which lead to a scary attic. The children's bedroom is out of this world. Atop all that, there's a HUGE present for him down in the Christmas room and it's calling to him. To open that present, and discover that within it is a passageway to another world... FANTASTIC!!! Then that other world is filled with Christmas Trees which grow their own ornaments. The boy goes on his own adventure of mystery, following footsteps that get bigger and bigger. He discovers an imposing lighthouse. Gets a horrific shock at the sudden discovery of a huge wooden statue staring him down. He climbs the lighthouse and then gets to be crowned a King! Then there's some more scary moments from which he wants his Mom to come and save him... and she does! I was able to lose myself in this story and thought it was absolutely wonderful. The opening moments reminded me of the 5th Doctor venturing out into space. Then there was also the 5th Doctor era references to Androzani Major. I was a bit disappointed that the Doctor didn't put a stop to the destruction of the forest planet though. There were some slower moments but for me those were mostly overpowered by the brilliant moments. The Doctor did explain the present. It was his intention to be there when the family were opening their gifts. He would then lead the Mother and the children through the present's passageway to what the Doctor had previously known to be a 100% harmless planet of Christmas Trees. He was probably going to bring a box of ornaments with for the family to decorate some of the trees. The major flaw in the Doctor's plan was that he forgot to take into consideration that some children can't resist an enormous Christmas present waiting for them under the Christmas tree! I was actually a bit let down by the concluding moments with Amy and Rory. I'm at a point with those characters - even with how much I love Amy - where I'm hoping that the Doctor will just move on. The happy tear on the Doctor's cheek overcame that for me. Hopefully, given some time, others will come to recognize the brilliant bits of the episode. For me, this story was just so easy to escape into. Not an absolute classic, no. But I (obviously) loved it!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By krumstets 1 December 26, 2011 07:34:08 PM

In short , this episode was utter tripe. By the time it ended with the Doctor wiping a tear I nearly threw up all the chocolate I had eaten. What complete Rubbish.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By thementalyinsane11 1 December 26, 2011 09:04:07 PM

im a big fan of doctor who but this ep was a load of shite best part was with amy and rory

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By IGPNicki 1 December 26, 2011 10:13:29 PM

I liked it. Sure I had minor quibbles. Why did he arrive in a Lancaster, and where was the rest of the bomber crew? But it was Doctor Who, and for a Christmas special, I thought it hit a lot of the right notes. It was a much more humany-wumany story, and it worked well. http://igp-scifi.com/2011/12/dr-who-review-the-doctor-the-widow-and-the-wardrobe/

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By rottenjohnny 1 December 26, 2011 10:44:30 PM

Still better than most of the rubbish on TV over Christmas. The special effects were a bit of a let-down, the ambitious CGI ship at the beginning was a little off, and the lurching platform looked like it was stop-motion. It wouldn't be DW without a little fanwnak, so here goes. The Doctor surviving in space; many ships in the DW universe are protected by a vacuum shield around the immediate vicinity to prevent air escaping. The Doctor has been able to survive in space before, as in Four to Doomsday, and supposedly it is possible to withstand space if exposure is short enough, though probably far less time than it took the Doctor to put on the suit. The spacesuit was high-tech enough to withstand re-entry plus an impact. Useful enough to wear the whole year round.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By chucky 1 December 26, 2011 11:39:53 PM

This was total shite. However a minor improvement on last years more-than total shite.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By fithteenth 1 December 27, 2011 12:13:33 AM

Loads better than last year! Slow silly but a really rousing ending. A bit depressed to hear that Moffat it bringing back Amy and Rory so that he can leave them again. Everything seems to be pointless in Moffat's Who. He is determined to leave them and convince them he's dead - then goes back, they say they know that he's not been dead all along... He has to die, well it turns out he doesn't. River is locked up forever for killing someone and has to keep it a secret who she killed, well she doesn't really kill anyone. :-(

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By jude2004 1 December 27, 2011 01:17:16 AM

Could someone please enlighten me, how old was the Doctor supposed to be in this? He mentioned something about 900 years of time travel when Madge Arwelll picked the lock to the Tardis with a hairpin(which isn't even a real lock is it???) yet surely he must be the 1100-odd year old Doctor from The Wedding of River Song? Or does none of this make sense anymore?

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By rottenjohnny 1 December 27, 2011 02:11:51 AM

Rule #1;The Doctor Lies. I suspected that the Doctor only pretended that 200 years had passed between the Doctor leaving Amy and Rory behind in The God Complex and his return in The Impossible Astronaut. That way when the Silence see the Doctor they'll assume it's in his 900-1100 era, and let him be so not to prevent his apparent death at Lake Silencio.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Tirian 1 December 27, 2011 02:22:45 AM

Or even easier, maybe the Doctor didn't leave Gallifrey and start time traveling until he was 200. Thus 900 years of time travel. Needing an exposition as to how old the Doctor is in the Christmas episode really is missing the wood for the Narnia trees. . .

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Dopefish 1 December 27, 2011 02:58:20 AM

Thought I recognized Madge. She was the Chef De Cuisine in the first series of "Chef!". Played a character called Lucinda: http://www.siegler.net/chef/images/image9.jpg

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By cordas2 1 December 27, 2011 08:58:42 AM

dark fantasy... TICK. Quite simply the best Xmas special of new who, of course their were flaws in it... but they are minor when compared to the finished product. Loved Bill the Imperial Farce Spacemarine :-D

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By TimBisley 1 December 27, 2011 09:02:19 AM

"Most people think he's dead" How does this, fundamentally stupid plotline, even work when the man in question is a time-traveller who's bouncing around the past, present and future in multiple forms?

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Prabha 1 December 27, 2011 10:07:07 AM

“Do what I do - hold tight and pretend it's a plan.” Am I the only one who understood that line as a showrunner's confession ? :)

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By NotoriousCG 1 December 27, 2011 11:29:00 AM

http://waughbagbawbag.blogspot.com/2011/12/doctor-who-review-doctor-widow-and.html

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By NotoriousCG 1 December 27, 2011 11:29:09 AM

http://waughbagbawbag.blogspot.com/2011/12/doctor-who-review-doctor-widow-and.html

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Shilling 1 December 27, 2011 03:08:07 PM

I was pretty disappointed. It managed to be both rushed and unexciting. Derivative but not nostalgic. Smaltzy but not emotional or dramatic. Weak.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By lawrie1@msn.com 1 December 27, 2011 05:30:22 PM

Not a patch on The Christmas Invasion, or even the Runaway Bride, but great fun all the same - and Matt Smith is fantastic.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By sailorsam 1 December 27, 2011 07:04:11 PM

Doctor Who is a bit of a tradition in our family...I used to watch it with my father and now my 12 year old watches it with me...halfway through he said, "This is rubbish Dad"...and as much as I wanted to say it wasn't....I had to agree it was dire and utter tripe...What a let down!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By TARDInSexy 1 December 27, 2011 08:58:55 PM

This was an episode not for geeks like me. My mum cried, kids I'm sure would feel the magic... ...and yes I shed a tear, but I'm a geek, I wanted a good episode of who, not a good xmas special. My least favourite Moffat episode but I have to concede it accomplished what it set out to do... but for me... a dissapointingly weak script, almost as bad as the RTD christmas specials (not so bad as Voyage of the Damned though obviously).

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By daftideasinc 1 December 28, 2011 07:33:21 AM

It ticked all the right boxes for a Xmas episode :) The tension for me came in the form of "Is it long enough after the war to have a fantasy ending where the war hero actually survives, rather than dies to honour the real life fallen?" I didn't need the Amy & Rory ending though. I think the Doctor needs to be shoved into a witness relocation programme. It just brings home what a silly conceit faking his own death was and will end up being.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By adrenalinejunkie32 1 December 28, 2011 12:11:03 PM

Shit sandwich

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By LouisWu 1 December 28, 2011 01:06:46 PM

@daftideasinc is right about the unneeded inclusion of Amy and Rory. I didn't like the cop-out of faking his own death, and coming out of the cold so soon makes a mockery of it. However, I don't know whether it was intentional, but I did get good retro vibes from the lurching tripod.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Shilling 1 December 28, 2011 04:18:04 PM

Oh, one more thing. Enough World War II already! We get it OK? People died in the service of their country. Fine. It's a cheap way to get pathos; now try something else! It's been way waaay overdone. Next time Doctor Who has a WW2 episode, I'm not even tuning in.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Trogwold 1 December 28, 2011 07:22:20 PM

Have to say, if I'd been the Doctor listening to Amy 'Scrooge' Pond whinge on about carol singers from the other side of the front door then I'd have stomped off back to the Tardis and made other arrangements for Christmas dinner!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By LizR 1 December 28, 2011 11:08:25 PM

Better than last year, but could have been so much better than it was. Maybe Moffat's spreading himself too thinly? He at least has good ideas, unlike his predecessor (compare: slitheen vs weeping angels, the silence vs the tritovore...) and a better idea of who the Doctor is (not a northern stereotype who has to be rescued every 5 mins or a cockney hyperactive lonely angel who falls in love with stupid apes, but a mysterious alien...phew, got it right at last!) And he actually "gets" time travel, unfortunately he's still turning the Doctor into superman/fairy godmother/santa, but at least the potential is there. Maybe if he was to concentrate on one good story per season...?

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By PhantomChief 1 December 28, 2011 11:17:16 PM

What is with all this hat of Amy Pond? I don't get it. I must admit, Steven Moffat said he wasn't boggled down trying to run Sherlock and Doctor Who, but I think it is and he dosn't want to admit it. This episode was the last episode for about 8 months, and after loving last years. This isn't exactly the one I wanted to see. It was good, but I was expecting...more. Still love The Moff, and if I could tell him one thing, it would be this: You have several months more than usual to get an entire season interlocked and consistant. Last years was great, one of the best the whos has ever had, but make usre the scripts and story arcs (if any) work with each other and aren't in a rush.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By ruffguff 1 December 29, 2011 07:38:10 PM

To LizR What do you mean by Northern stereotypes exactly? Did he keep space whippets? Play in a hyper space brass band? Or is it just because he was northern in the first place that annoyed you? Do you prefer your Doctors without a regional accent? Are they better with BBC RP? How very 20th century of you. If anything Matt Smith is the stereotype, with his bumbling 'Oh look aren't I wackey ' routine becoming increasingly tiresome, and in serious danger of turning the Doctor into an anachronistic parody. It is also a bit lame to compare the weakest of RTD's ideas with Moffat's strongest. All writers have good days( RTD: the Ood, The Midnight creature. ) and bad days ( Moffat: the Beast Below, the redesigned Daleks, that bloody stupid DW in the middle of the logo.)

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By ruffguff 1 December 29, 2011 07:43:15 PM

i also like badgers and hugging trees and laughing at peoples mouth ulcers and drinking milk out the bottle.....hummmmmmmm

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By ruffguff 1 December 29, 2011 07:43:15 PM

i also like badgers and hugging trees and laughing at peoples mouth ulcers and drinking milk out the bottle.....hummmmmmmm

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By scotty 1 December 29, 2011 09:10:24 PM

Did most of you lot not get what you wanted from Santa? Talk about whinging bloody poms. Dr Who is light entertainment, nothing more. It never could stand being analysed too much. I liked it, and thought it was a refreshing change form the darkness of last season (and last Christmas). Also loved the cameo from Amy and Rory - who else doe the Doctor have at this point anyway>

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By LouisWu 1 December 30, 2011 04:12:58 PM

@scotty. He could go and visit Wilf Motts/Gramps. He left the poor sod a couple of Christmases ago thinking he killed the doctor. Plus its always good to get Bernard Cribbins out of his coffin. The doctor also has a clone daughter somewhere. Hes a more feckless parent than the Ponds.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Potterhead13 1 December 30, 2011 05:52:31 PM

I expected this to change my mind about DW (after the disappointment of the last 2 series, I wasn't expecting much), because it actually looked good, and it had Bill Bailey in it. Obviously I was wrong. There was no point to the episode, not enough Bill Bailey, and Matt Smith is an awful Doctor. I know most people will disagree with me, but everyone has an opinion.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By JamesBolivar 1 December 30, 2011 06:49:17 PM

Watched it with my wife, was just thinking how utterly awful it was when I remembered that it was a children's programme - looked great for them too.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By R-type 1 December 31, 2011 07:45:06 AM

Between the Androzani and the Doctor surviving for a while in space, this episode was a lovely little nod back to the 5th Doctor, who spent some time trying to reach the tardis by jumping into space without a suit for a drawn out time in Four to Doomsday. Just saying, stop whining about 11 doing it, 5 did it too. Either way I liked it. Lighthearted Xmas fun, and not a Santa mask or crappy christmas song in sight. Thanks Moff. Next time, more Bill Bailey!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Prabha 1 December 31, 2011 10:12:57 AM

@ruffguff: agreed on all counts. I think we'd understand that kind of appraisal better if we'd consider two things (1) people are mixing up production value with quality -- sure, visually, it looks better since Moffat tookover (almost US standards), but so are all the BBC shows, Moffat has nothing to do with it. (2) It'd be interesting to know how old is the usual Moffat fan, compared to the usual RTD fan. I'm guessing the former is a lot younger than the latter. I love Matt Smith a lot as an actor, but I gotta say I'm also getting increasingly weary of his hysterical unefficiant showman clown Doctor. But it has more to do with the writing than the acting IMO, poor Matt Smith can only do with the lines given to him.

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Posted By Prabha 1 December 31, 2011 10:23:10 AM

@LouisWu: absolutly. I'll never quite understand why the Moff categorically refuses to use RTD's great continuity/characters. The show would be so much richer, feel bigger, less repetitive and it would give fans intense satisfaction.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Doctor_Fruitbat 1 December 31, 2011 12:28:48 PM

What really ticked me off was the mother-ex-machina plot device that Doctor Who loves to fellate so much. As soon as a mother and child appear together you know who's going to resolve everything, because god forbid a mother be anything other than a god-like superhero. It's such a sickeningly twee get-out clause.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By daftideasinc 1 January 1, 2012 12:13:20 PM

The one thing that did bug me on viewing, (presumably) a wooden tree seeding a metal babble, it falls to ground, hatches, producing a wooden forest entity. That seemed particularly lazy writing from The Moff to me - the kind of thing RTD 'science as magic' is usually crucified for. At least get the Doctor to say some trite scientific babble to account for it.

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Posted By easytigergb 1 January 1, 2012 01:05:23 PM

anyone else think there was more to the whole "crying tears of joy - how human" and then the Doctor crying tears of joy thing, or was that just me?

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Lara5 1 January 2, 2012 08:06:31 PM

I loved it , much better than last years flying shark nonsence.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Trogwold 1 January 2, 2012 09:56:33 PM

Just watched Sherlock and have made the following deductions: Moffat IS a good writer; he CAN do it when he puts his mind to it; so CLEARLY he can't be arsed when it comes to DW.

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Posted By Potterhead13 1 January 3, 2012 10:59:30 AM

I agree with Trogwold, Moffat is a good writer; Sherlock is one of the best shows on TV at the moment, and Tintin was one of the best films of 2011, Dr Who's just crap

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Lachesis 1 January 4, 2012 03:49:40 PM

Spectacle and scale seem to destroy Who's strengths. The classic series was all about the journey, since its reinvention its been all about the climactic moment and that is a shame, the talent involved cannot be denied but as with every other 'special' it feels contrived and heavy handed and rests on something that just doesn't quite work. A loverly cast, great production values, a ho hum 'story' and one nice moment don't quite justify the 50 minutes of build up imo. Decent TV, Poor Who, but I'd still take this over any RTD special.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By TyKendall 1 January 6, 2012 12:17:46 PM

I found the episode rather dreary and predictable. Not to mention the glaring sexism: Men = weak, Women = strong...a "direct translation". You must be kidding me. There again, it's sexism against men, the acceptable face of sexism today. The show is going down the pan.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By cliven 1 January 8, 2012 11:36:09 PM

For all those upset about the pre-space-suit scene, the ship was very clearly explosively venting atmosphere, and that was what he was breathing (and desperately trying to swim forward through to catch the suit!). In fact, the Dr. getting spat out into space would not even have occurred if he hadn't been force-carried there BY the venting air. What do you think he was fighting against when he was trying to hold on to the ship? Earth's gravity? Not that far above the planet! As for the reentry and impact, he clearly indicated it was an "impact suit" and that it was repairing him, so we can assume it was designed to survive extremes, and help it's wearer do so as well. Bit contrived, but still internally consistent. Must admit I was a bit let down by the second half, as Narnia is a fave of mine, so the divergence to the wood folk was a bit. . wooden. AS to the "mommy knows best" bit; hey it's Christmas! Sentiment is to be expected! Could have been better, tho I suspect the comparisons with last year's excellent special are part of what makes this one seem not as great. At least Moffat actually writes Christmassy Cristmas specials. He might want to produce more and write less tho, as he is getting stretched thin, and it shows.

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Posted By cliven 1 January 9, 2012 03:18:36 AM

@ Prabha 1 With regards to your query, I'm in my 40s and find RTD's work to be utter tripe with absolute regularity (the one exception being "Midnight", where he was apparently forced to squash his usual overblown habits due to budget restraints), while I consider Moffat's earlier DW work mostly excellent. Of late, however, Moff has become far too much like RTD for my liking. Sound and Fury only goes so far and it does indeed often signify nothing! Also, I'll take manic-one-minute, quietly-sincere-the-next Dr. 11 any day over "I'm too sexy to actually try to be interesting" Dr. 10 any day. *Quirky*, thy name is supposed to be Doctor Who!

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By cliven 1 January 9, 2012 03:29:49 AM

@LouisWu The Dr. is not a feckless parent! He thinks Jenny is dead, and Susan (who we assume was "unwritten" due to the Time Lock retroactively making her impossible) he left because she technically left him first in his 1st incarnation. Even Dr. 10 didn't go looking for Jenny, you'll remember, so this isn't a new/Dr. 11 thing. As to Wilfred, I think 11 is trying to put as much distance 'twixt himself and that *particular* period of his past as is possible. He absolutely lost his balance in his 10th incarnation due to egotism (T.L. Victorious), and clearly wants to change his ways back to more of. . what he was like before the show got rebooted.

Re: Doctor Who: The Doctor, The Widow And The Wardrobe review
Posted By Who_Canada 1 January 11, 2012 08:57:37 PM

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion; and you can agree or disagree that Moffatt is better writing than Davies. I would SEVERELY disagree as I think Moffatt writes absolute garbage, with his 30 second plot summaries, comedic idiocyncracies, too much filler and not enough storylines. I think the last two Christmas specials were terrible. They weren't original at all. This last one, with all the people saying that this was a nod to the 5th Doctor's "Four to Doomsday" story; do you ACTUALLY think the writers meant to reference that story?? I guarantee you, they thought it would be funny and just tossed that scene in. I guess my biggest gripe is the story writing. I personally hate bad story telling. How the Doctor fell from a spaceship in space, landed on Earth, no scratches, cuts or bruises and we have to ASSUME it was because of the air pocket he had in space and the "Impact Suit" protected him from the fall AND has the capacity to repair his body was too much. I could write for hours about how much I hated the epsiode or the past two series, but I'll just say this: I love Doctor Who, like Matt Smith, don't like Moffatt's writing style (with too much filler, 30 second plot summaries, the Doctor ALWAYS having a plan, perception filters and us having to assume what happened because the writers are to lazy to tell / show us).
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