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Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict

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A round-up of your thoughts on the latest episode of Doctor Who, The Lodger. Here’s what you’ve been saying…

Published on Jun 14, 2010

Scheduled somewhere around the football, last weekend's instalment of Doctor Who was the last before the big finale two parter kicks in. So, what did you all make of it? As usual, you've been adding your comments since the episode broadcast, and we figured it was long overdue us doing a round-up of them. Without further ado...

04BennettCH

I shunned the football to watch this episode and im glad I did, wasn't brilliant mind you but good enough.

Viridis

I was laidback through the entire episode until all of a sudden another TARDIS appeared (looking more like Dalek style then Time Lord) and I was drawn to the screen like Sophie and the Doctor were drawn to the engine. That could've been mindblowing. That could've been a second 'Utopia' with the appearance of another Time Lord, but instead we got this creepy computer and hologram trying to fix the ship.

MadProphet

Smith entirely outshone Corden, still surprising us with new turns in his performance. Corden wasn't too bad, but it's just easy to overlook him, I think.

Tombombadil66

I think the two previous actors were miscast in the role and I can understand why Moffat refers to his tenure as 'Series 1'. I can't imagine who was trying to build a Tardis, but it was probably a time-lord of old who died, leaving the holograms to continue on. The trailer for next week looks great. Overall, this is my favourite series yet.

The_Tomahawk_Kid

I really did not like this episode at all. The plot elements could all have been contained in the trailer there were so few of them. I thought most of the "comedy" was cringeworthy. Give me Love and Monsters anyday over this!

Matthewsouthcott

Good solid episode, enjoyed it and did find it brilliantly funny and entertaining at seeing Smith's Doctor being so awkward and not fitting in, and his general crazy, geeky and unbalanced persona which seems to be the Doctor's way now

Jimreeve

I just watched it again in case I was missing something and doing it a disservice. But no, it was as bad as my first viewing... This series seems to be splitting fans right down the middle: normally I'd think that was a good thing. I like something with an edge. But unfortunately (for me) I'm on the side of those who are finding it mediocre at best, and I'm not enjoying that. What I can't fathom is why anyone would give this dire episode a thumbs-up. The only thing I gained from a repeat viewing was a greater awareness of the gaping plot-holes. To my mind, it was the worst episode so far

A1nostaliga

On the whole, not great but better than expected and to be fair a surprisingly good script from Gareth Roberts who hadn't impressed me at all in the RTD era, maybe Steven Moffat managed to reign in Roberts excesses and annoying in-jokes.That said, it was nice to see the nod to Van Gogh on the fridge! Frankly, Corden's role could have been taken by anyone with an equity card but you can't have everything...

Oldneil

First episode this series that I've actively disliked. I was prepared for Corden to do his 'little boy voice from big body' act, but it was the football that really did it. Back when I was a little runt with no coordination whatsoever, Who gave me hope that it didn't matter if you were picked last in PE - other, non-physical stuff could make up for that. Can't help feeling ever so slightly miffed that our hero turns out to be brilliant at sodding football after all. Oh, the betrayal!

TheRahman

Come back Russell T Davies. Moffatt has ruined the show. There's not one episode so far I would rewatch. There's a saying 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Now all I want to do is nut Moffatt really hard so I can get my point across to him.

Headache2112

Another bad trailer leads to a pretty good episode. Nothing classic, but lots of fun

Keep your thoughts coming: the general consensus on The Lodger appears to be that many of you weren't expecting too much from it, but were pleased with what you got.

Roll on The Pandorica Opens at the weekend, then...

 

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Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Viridis 1 June 14, 2010 08:26:24 AM

Again, I have to say I really did like this episode (although I miss the episodes like Flesh and Stone, that was awesome). Moffat rules and I can't wait for his magical touch in the two final episodes. Moffat is God.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Name1ess 1 June 14, 2010 09:10:58 AM

Not even in the top 11 comments, blimey I must try harder! Despite the disagreement over whether this episode was good or bad, or indeed how the whole series stands up, it’s good to see that so many people care. If there were only 1 or 2 comments I’d worry for the future of Dr Who.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By icemachine79 1 June 14, 2010 12:31:16 PM

I was really hoping Moffat would bring back some gravitas to the show after Russell T. Davies turned it into a crappy romantic comedy. So far I've been sorely disappointed. Could we please get a producer that takes the program at least a little bit seriously? At least Matt Smith is a much better actor than David Tennant. I just wish he was getting better material to work with.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Feefers 1 June 14, 2010 02:56:46 PM

I think just to dispute with TheRahman whilst I too think there's maybe only one or two episodes I could really rewatch there hasn't been an episode that I felt was a total waste of time or incredibly poor standard. So whilst indeed none of the episodes has quite had the WOW factor that many are wanting the overall standard is substantially higher and I suspect Moffat Series 2 will be even stronger.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Zokko 1 June 14, 2010 05:37:31 PM

The Doctor playing football? Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. No wonder the ratings have nosedived since R.T.D. left. Moffat you are a berk! Give someone else a chance before its too late.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By elor74 1 June 14, 2010 08:23:34 PM

The ratings have not nosedived. This series has got similar ratings to any of eccleston or tennant's seasons. The specials got higher ratings, but they always do. The overnights are down, but that just means more people are recording it for later.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By elor74 1 June 14, 2010 10:36:10 PM

And just to add to my last post. The average viewing figures for Doctor Who per season since it has returned are: Series 1: 7.94 million Series 2: 7.81 million Series 3: 7.54 million Series 4: 8.04 million Series 5: 7.85 million (so far) So the average viewing figures for a season of NuWho are : 7.836 million. That means average viewing figures are slightly up (though slightly down on last season admittedly). PS The viewing figures for season 5 don't include iPlayer, which would add at least another 1.25 million per week!

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By crichton13 1 June 14, 2010 11:12:27 PM

The hidden 'TARDIS' was nothing more than a smaller version of a Sontaren Mothership. You heard it FIRST from John Crichton.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By crichton13 1 June 14, 2010 11:13:36 PM

I've got some more for you as well - just gonna let you wait and whet your whistle's....

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By crichton13 1 June 14, 2010 11:16:01 PM

In the medium term, you will realise WHY this series is splitting Fans right down the middle....

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Youcantuneapiano 1 June 15, 2010 02:17:33 AM

Right, I get it, you make an episode about voting on the cusp of the general election and you make an episode about football as the World Cup is getting under way. You're topical and relevant and that. I wanted to watch Doctor Who, not football. 'The Best Below' gets off with it because it's pretty good, but this just worked out as a mediocre rom-com with a lead (not Smith here, he is hallowed in these eyes) who can barely do comedy. It was like tacking the ending scene from Predator 2, aboard their shop on to the end of an episode How I Met Your Mother, but having them making out at the end instead of fighting a Predator. And yes, I know I'm saying all of this because he talked trash to Sir Patrick Stewart - but I love him. :'(

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Youcantuneapiano 1 June 15, 2010 02:19:25 AM

*SHIP I always typo during an impassioned tirade.

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By spikey_p 1 June 15, 2010 11:44:33 AM

This should have been awful and as soon as I found out that Cordon was in it (playing his usual, unfunny Morcombe and Wise style version of himself), my expectations were at rock bottom. It could have been another desperate Love and Monsters, Fear Her-style cheap filler episode done for cheap laughs and a total misunderstanding of The Doctor's character and the programme's heritage, skirting round very difficult questions about the Doctor that fans are always very protective of... The Doctor taking a shower, having to deal with money, getting a job (even in Blink he sends Martha out to work!), having to cope with money and pass himself off as even vaguely normal. Having people *insist* that he tells them what his actual name is and then even more taboo than that, actually offering a partial answer as to why not and why he ended up being called The Doctor... All very dangerous and treacherous ground. We know that he developed a fondness and a skill for playing cricket earlier than his fifth incarnation and you can imagine Jon Pertwee or a young Hartnell lobbing a ball about and swinging a bat, but can you imagine Jon Pertwee playing Sunday league football? Or ANY of them??

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By spikey_p 1 June 15, 2010 11:57:05 AM

This could have been an epic fail of disasterous proportions, particularly with the appearance of the throwaway TARDIS at the end but the plot is entirely secondary. It is of course Moffat plot template A: Alien technology suffers catastrophic systems failure, tries to effect repairs and kills everyone as a result, the same basic plot as every episode Moffat penned for the first 4 series excluding Blink. But the plot is immaterial here, and resolved within 5 mins flat once the Doctor finally ventures upstairs. The hilarious moment when the Doctor asks the Emergency [Medical] Hologram to "Please state the nature of the [medical} emergency" just before flat out point out that it's really stupid (and can't do faces) is great. As is the realisation that some trying to build a TARDIS (is that just me, or does that look like a Jaggaroth ship?), which has killed everyone on board the moment it takes off had me thinking "simbiotic nuclei..?" And top, TOP marks for mirroring Pertwee's shower singing, "I must not use the sonic" and the giant-sized timeflow sensor from the Time Monster. Is there a Morrocan burgandy bottle and some tea leaves in there somewhere?

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By thenextdoctor 1 June 15, 2010 01:10:22 PM

well..

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By thenextdoctor 1 June 15, 2010 01:11:22 PM

thanks for all your comments - an interesting read :)

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Question 1 June 15, 2010 01:56:11 PM

After a few answers in order to clarify my checkmate of 'The Lodger' episode - Can 2 x Tardis exist in the same place at the same time ? Would the presence of one ‘who’ Tardis lead a 2nd ‘who’ tardis, that was attempting to arrive in the same place, to have landing issues ? Was it pre Hartnell that the current Tardis got stuck in chameleon effect as the Police box or during his tenure ? What did it look like before ? And why is there no comment about Dr Matt Smith entering the lodger tardis and knowing in advance that it would think him the desired pilot of this older looking gothic type 'ship' ?.. there is quite a bit of suggestion here .. most of which seems devoid from the above debate .. thanks

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Name1ess 1 June 16, 2010 04:46:56 PM

For a fascinating graphical representation of all of the audience viewing figure up to ‘Victory of Daleks’ can I recommend - http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/ratings.html

Re: Doctor Who: The Lodger - your verdict
Posted By Name1ess 1 June 16, 2010 04:47:02 PM

For a fascinating graphical representation of all of the audience viewing figure up to ‘Victory of Daleks’ can I recommend - http://www.themindrobber.co.uk/ratings.html
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