Transformers 5 Will Be Michael Bay’s Last. For Real.

Michael Bay confirms that Transformers: The Last Knight is his final Optimus Prime movie. He also reveals why he never directed Tom Cruise.

It’s been 10 years since the first Transformers movie came out. And in the meantime, Michael Bay has directed four sequels, plus one original movie. Thus with Transformers: The Last Knight upon us—the fifth in the Bayformers saga—the auteur behind the world’s most famous helicopters-at-sunset iconography has something to say: he’s out. For realsies this time.

While speaking with Fandango, Michael Bay confirmed Transformers: The Last Knight is his final Optimus Prime rodeo. Mind you, he also said that after Transformers: Dark of the Moon in 2011 (the third one) and then Transformers: Age of Extinction in 2014 (the fourth), but he means it this time.

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“These movies that I’ve done, they are massive movies. They take a lot out of you,” said Bay on the subject of stepping away from the franchise. “I’ve done it enough, and I’ve had a great time doing it. I’m going out with a bang on this one, and I feel like you gotta go out while you’re ahead, you know. I think I’ve had a good run, and I’ve got a lot of other movies I want to do.”

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Bay also revealed why one of those movies has not been or will not be a Tom Cruise-starring action vehicle.

“We’ve talked about [it],” Bay said about working with Cruise. “But I told Tom to his face… I said, ‘Tom, I know you rehearse your stunts over and over, but I like sloppy stunts.’ So that would be the rub working with us — I wouldn’t let him rehearse as much. I like my stunts to be dirty and messy, and not so… [Bay sings the Mission: Impossible theme]. Look, with Mission: ImpossibleI understand you need very choreographed stunts, but I like dirty, sloppy stunts.”

So scratching off the possibility of working on an Ethan Hunt movie, it’s a mystery what Bay will do next. He’s recently shown more of his political hand with 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, so he likely might wish to do another such film. Then again, he said he was done with Transformers before. However, we tend to believe him this time…

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