Hobbit 3 has new title, extended Hobbit 2 adds 25 minutes

News Simon Brew 24 Apr 2014 - 15:53

Peter Jackson has confirmed a title change for the third Hobbit movie, and a very extended cut of Desolation Of Smaug.

As had been rumoured earlier in the week, the name of the third and final film in The Hobbit trilogy is changing. As such, what was once known as The Hobbit: There And Back Again now has something that sounds less like a walk, and more like a battle.

Peter Jackson has revealed on Facebook that the new film is now going to be called The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies. Which, if you've read the book, makes sense.

Jackson also revealed that the extended cut of The Desolation Of Smaug is almost done, and that it's going to be - wait for it - over 25 minutes longer. Nearly another half an hour! It's not as if Smaug wasn't a chatty bugger already.

Anyway, here's what Jackson wrote:

"Our journey to make The Hobbit Trilogy has been in some ways like Bilbo's own, with hidden paths revealing their secrets to us as we've gone along. There and Back Again felt like the right name for the second of a two film telling of the quest to reclaim Erebor, when Bilbo’s arrival there, and departure, were both contained within the second film. But with three movies, it suddenly felt misplaced - after all, Bilbo has already arrived there in the Desolation of Smaug.

When we did the premiere trip late last year, I had a quiet conversation with the studio about the idea of revisiting the title. We decided to keep an open mind until a cut of the film was ready to look at. We reached that point last week, and after viewing the movie, we all agreed there is now one title that feels completely appropriate.

And so: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies it is.

As Professor Tolkien intended, There and Back Again encompasses Bilbo’s entire adventure, so don’t be surprised if you see it used on a future box-set of all three movies.

Before then however, we have a film to finish, and much to share with you. It’s been a nice quiet time for us - Jabez and I happily editing away in a dark cave in Wellington—but those halcyon days are quickly coming to an end. It will soon be time to step into the light. Expect to see and hear much about The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies in the coming months.

And there’s also The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Cut, which we’re in the process of finishing, with over 25 mins of new scenes, all scored with original music composed by Howard Shore.

It’ll be a fun year!"


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Man, I sure hope the extra 25 minutes adds some more much needed walking footage to Bilbo's journey. I can't wait to see more of Milkwood and other assorted New Zealand locations!

Hopefully, there'll be more Dwarven singing, too.

damn, and I just bought desolation on BR in steelbook

guess what someone I know is getting for their next birthday...

Got nowt to do with no one's talking about the movie and you're trying to drum up some PR then.

Makes sense to change it for the initial theatrical release. As much as I prefer 'There are back again' it does already imply that the story ends well. I imagine they thought that wouldn't really entice the uninitiated.

the first two films were such a monumental disappointment, souless cash grabs of the worst kind, drawn out c.g.i. cluster f**ks with little heart, soul or substance, everything that made the lord of the rings trilogy special is a absent from these films and there's no hope that the third will be any different
it's such a shame as freeman would have made an excellent bilbo if he wasn't so badly misused in the role

I for one approve of this name change. *hides*

Should have cut an hour and a half, not added 25 minutes – and then edited the three films together as one befittingly lengthed film.

Anyone still under the illusion that PJ makes creative decisions to better honour the source material?

I don't mind the title as long as the movie is great. Unlike many , i prefer the hobbit an unexpected journey , i thought it was distinct and very much hobbit like during the hobbit scenes and also i like desolation of smaug but i felt it had far too many action cuts and not even journey cuts . However with the news of the extended edition being over 25 minutes with original score is exciting as i feel more scenes from the book is required to balance out the action , BEORN and MIRKWOOD .. along with the laketown feast i hope it makes in the extended cut. I personally din't prefer the extended cut of AUJ-certainly not all of the scenes , the dragon entrance was a bit long , also Bilbo and Gandalf at Midsummer's eve , that scene could have been shown better or could have been left out . Also din't like the Narsil and the sauron part of the movie .. But scenes like Dwarves in rivendell , and Bilbo and Elrond , Hobbiton are the scenes I loved... I would have preferred a couple of extra scenes right at the end with the eagles.. !! Nevertheless The Hobbit : AUJ is a beautifully stylized film .. The desolation really requires extended and new scenes I feel. specially MIRKWOOD ,. and Beorn.. it needs to feel song to set the pace right..

OK hotshot, why don't you go and make a better version that stays true to the source material?

That is stupidest stupid response and it is irellevent. It is also hilarious that you put this comment on a film review website. Is that your response to all reviews and opinions that disagree with yours? Genius mate, genius.


The hobbit-The battle of Hayes and Carl?

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