New details of Sinister Six and Venom movies

News Simon Brew 16 Jan 2014 - 06:45

Writer Robert Orci has been chatting about the planned Spider-Man spin-off movies, Sinister Six and Venom...

It was revealed towards the end of last year that Sony was looking to further expand the Spider-Man universe on screen, with a series of spin-off movies. Those are in addition to the three already-announced sequels to The Amazing Spider-Man, the first of which hits UK cinemas in April.

One of the writers and producers of those spin-offs is Roberto Orci, and he's been chatting to IGN about the projects. In particular, how do you make a Sinister Six film that's chock-full of villainy and make it fit? Does it stay villain-centric, or do at least some of them have to be good? As Orci says, "that's the discussion we're having right now: how exactly do you do that, and how do you do it without betraying the audience and making them all mean?".

Joking at first that "Drew Goddard is going to be writing that one, so it's kind of his problem", Orci went on to say that the announced writers for the Spider-Man spin-offs - himself, Alex Kurtzman, Jeff Pinkner, Ed Solomon and Goddard - are "all working on each other's stuff".

"We want to be true to it, but there are some great antiheroes in this day and age", he continued. "There's been examples of that even on TV - Vic Mackey on The Shield, one of the great antiheroes of all time. There are ways to milk that story. Audiences have seen everything. They've seen all the good guys who never do anything wrong. Is there a story in seeing the other side? That's the challenge and that's the fun. I'm not sure how we're going to do that yet".

At least we know the source of the impending villainy. "Oscorp plays an important part in how our villains get created", he revealed. Which suggests that through the spin-offs that the Osborn family is going to have quite the part to play.

You can read the full interview at IGN, here.

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A movie about a group of anti-heroes? I can dig that. But they shouldn't be too heroic. Heisenberg is a perfect example of what I expect of an anti-hero.

They shouldn't just be six. They should also be sinister.

I'm intrigued by this idea, and like how Oscorp is the centre on the ASM universe.

Why cant they just focus on the villainy, actually build them up to be a credible threat, show what they are capable of, why not have 90+ minutes of the hero's being impotent and doubting them selves rather than the 10 mins of self doubt and recovery montage that inevitably happens in the hero's films. To my mind the only time the villains should be anti hero's is when the threat is so great that they have no choice but to combine forces with hero's and use their powers to protect their ability to be dastardly, i.e. saving earth from total obliteration.

Well thats my 2 penneth on the subject.

I don't see a problem with a "criminals only" movie. Look at Oceans 11 or whatever. Just find an angle to make them likable bad guys. The problem for me is the absence of Spiderman in such a movie. I will be thinking, all the way through it, "Where is Spiderman?" especially in any scene where a crime is committed.

It will be like "Iron Man 3" in which everybody thought: Where the heck is SHIELD?! Next to the Mandarin spin of course.

If they want to do a villain-centric movie (which would be an awesome concept), they should look to the creators of The Superior Foes of Spider-Man, which follows this idea, and I've been enjoying it...

It really is a cool idea. The sinister 6 I place of the thunderbolts almost. Too bad there's no Bullseye. Michael c hall would make a good Bullseye... Gotta go, must alert Congress.

In a world... With one hero... Sometimes... You need an antihero. Or six.

Tony soprano. Walter white. Dexter. Rick Grimes. Big Jim Rennie. And Joey Gladstone.


The Sinister 6.

Spider-Man: "uncle Ben always told me this day... would come."

Joey Gladstone and Venom-possessed Mr. Woodchuck: "did somebody say (looks up, down, left and right) wood?"

Spider-Man: (sigh) Is it too late to join the avengers?

Though you could certainly go down the 'mercernaries who need to pay the bills' route. Combine a few good heists with the emergence of a villain that just wants to wreck the place or take over the country police-state style. There are plenty of Marvell villains who are very VERY bad for the core business of a group like a Sinister Six. Would fit well with the humorous angle of some of the recent comics that have focused more on seeing things from the sinister six' viewpoint instead of spiderman's.

With Spiderman nowhere to be seen (have him off in Germany tracing down his father's studies), they've got to stop the big bad, not because they give a crap about saving the city, but because he keeps on screwing up their heists and they actually need enough order for banks to stay in business - saving the world so they can rob it:-)

That has the makings of a funny movie. I like it.

Is she playing Zelda: Ocarina of Time?

A lot of Spiderman villians were good people who were forced into difficult situations after getting "powers." Oscorp will be the true villian. The created villians will be torn between wanting revenge on Oscorp to being happy about finally having power. Perhaps Oscorp will promise them something for ganging up and committing crimes? Some become straight sociopaths and others remain morally torn. That could be the conflict and that could give the audience a "bad guy" to root for in a movie full of bad guys.

Maybe - I still haven't got a hang on Angry Birds :-)

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