Fantastic Four reboot news round-up

News Simon Brew 4 Feb 2014 - 09:12

UPDATE: Following a threat of legal action, we have now amended this story.

In spite of Josh Trank debunking the Fantastic Four reboot synopsis we ran in the story as false, we've now had a letter from lawyers acting for Fox, saying that "It has come to our attention that you have posted a purported plot details from the Fox Property on your website", adding that "These purported plot details provide important qualitative details about character, plot, setting and mood, thereby violating Fox's rights in the copyrights to the screenplay of the Fox Property".

Well: if they're not true, then Fox has no legal jurisdiction over them. So what we originally thought to be false now appears to be partly confirmed at least, as a result of well-paid lawyers demanding their removal. It's the same bunch of lawyers who were responsible for sending us legal threats over being nice to the RoboCop reboot - you can read all about that here.

They've not lost their ability to tell us off, either: "Further, the disclosure of purported plot details is harmful to Fox and to the filmmakers hard at work on the project.  Disclosure of uncontrolled information about the Fox Property prior to its release diminishes the value of Fox's rights in the Fox Property and deprives the filmmakers of the opportunity to present the film to the public the way they intended.  It also spoils the theater experience for fans who do not want to know even the rough storyline beforehand".

There's no copyright on rumours, we should reiterate. The definition of the word 'purported', from Dictionary.com, is:

verb (used with object) 1. to present, especially deliberately, the appearance of being; profess or claim, often falsely: a document purporting to be official. 2. to convey to the mind as the meaning or thing intended; express or imply.

Here's the original story. The irony isn't lost on us that we only seem to get legal threats about things we're generally nice to.

And, for the record, we remain enthusiastic about this film, mainly because of the involvement of the excellent Josh Trank...

Set to (purportedly - Ed) begin shooting at the end of March ahead of its June 2015 release date, Josh Trank's reboot of the Fantastic Four franchise is currently (purportedly - Ed) deep in casting. Earlier in the week, we brought you news of names that had been linked with the film (including Kit Harrington, Kate Mara, Miles Teller, Saoirse Ronan and Richard Madden). And we've got one or two extra bits of news here.

Firstly then, Miles Teller has now confirmed that he has indeed been in talks with regards the film. He's the running favourite for the role of Reed Richards (purportedly a character in the film - Ed), and he told Collider that "I think, you know, if that were to happen, I think the characters would be taken in a different direction than the kind of blue suits and stuff from the franchise that had previously been done, which you’d have to if you’re gonna reboot something, you really got to kind of put your own spin on it. But with that being said, all I need is like, a couple weeks to just get my body back in shape".

Teller will next be seen in That Awkward Moment (we've seen that, so we know that's true - Ed), out later this month, and Divergent, out in March (we've not seen that, but it says say on IMDB, so must be true - Ed).

A casting call has gone up, meanwhile, at Acting Auditions. This may just be holding information, but it does (purportedly - Ed) suggest a thing or two about the (purported - Ed) direction of the film. Pinches of salt wouldn't hurt here though (it says the film will start production in February, for instance, and we don't think that's true). Still, it (purportedly - Ed) says:

--- REMOVED AS A RESULT OF SCARY SOLICITOR LETTER --

Whether that all proves to be the direction of the film or not, it's clear anyway we're getting (purportedly - Ed) a very different beast from Tim Story's pair of Fantastic Four movies. We think we can say Tim Story directed the last two without getting into trouble, anyway.

Testing of actors is (purportedly - Ed) set to start by the end of the month, and we'd imagine the cast will be all but locked in place in a few weeks' time. (Purportedly - Ed).

We shall, of course, keep you posted. Purportedly.

Collider.
Acting Auditions.

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"Couple of weeks to get my body back into shape" - that's going to make a very slow paced FF movie..
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*Reed reaches to catch the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator - stretching his body to impossible, even fantastic lengths to grasp the falling device*

- Sue "Reed, you've saved the world!"

*The incredibly young Ben Grimm carries the extra spools of Reed in a backpack for the next two weeks as his body slowly (so slowly) gets back into shape*

-Ben "I got your back Bro!...but I may have dropped your ass when we was doing those Rad skateboard moves yesterday"
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This sound terrible! I am huge Marvel Comics/Cinematic fan for quite a lot of my life and this sounds awful. Reed Richards was always a clever person, his ability made him even smarter! So right there, there is a problem.

Not to mention they were all involved in the same experiment that caused their abilities to manifest themselves.....they didn't meet later in life.

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong WRONG! Fox just give the rights back to Marvel Studios so that it can be done properly! At least Sony are trying to right the wrongs they made with Spider-Man!

It seems like an odd direction to go in. Almost as though it's a superhero story that the writer / director wants to tell but couln't raise the money unless it incorporated an existing property.

I know it's an adaptation, and I suppose (from my limited knowledge of The Fantastic Four), it maintains the idea that Reed and Ben were friends before they knew the Storm's but I'm not sure that it works on paper.

However...I suppose it sidesteps the whole 'don't want to see the same origin again' issue?

That's so dumb. Like, they need to reboot a franchise that is still fresh in everyone's memory, so the changes they made to the story aren't just for a better movie experiencie, but just to set the piece apart from the previous one. So, instead of make a movie that is closer to the original material, you just go farther away from it. Ok, a comic movie can be very different and still be good by it's own merits, but in this case (as well whith amazing spider man's) it all sounds rush and desperate.
I think only Marvel Studios could properly handle this thing, and de FF would fit nicely in their cinematic universe.

I think they should teach superhero origin stories in schools.
Then we wont have to sit through version after version & can just get on with story telling.

Im just not looking forward to this the characters have been made too young! its like FF at school, so no thx josh, chronicle was awesome this looks to be a flop

"A few weeks to get my body back in..." Dude have you ever even heard of mr. Fantastic? Gimme 500 dollars n I'll rent the steamroller myself!

Yep they would fit in way better with the avengers than the xmen. Civil war anyone? Instead the Civil War is "give em back" and "no we're keepin em"

The last movie was seven years ago. That's not fresh.

"Properly"? Like Jarvis & Mandarin were done properly

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Do we think that 2014/2015 will be like 2006/2007, when all those superhero movies were released but didn't do much to change it or simply became normal blockbusters? Because it sure looks like it especially with FF.

Just cast four of the most vapid actors from Hollyoakes for ****'s sake. May as well because that plot sucks!

Okay before everyone rags on this reboot too much let's just take into consideration that neither of Fox's earlier Fantastic Four movies were pretty bad to begin with so it's not like they can really do worse. Josh Trank is a comic book fan and from this loose description it sounds like it's being modeled after the Ultimate Fantastic Four which was Marvel's own reimagined version. Marvel's movie version of The Avengers has much more in common with the Ultimate Avengers than to the traditional Avengers.

I hear where you're coming from but -- even in the Ultimate Universe Reed Richards was a brilliant genius from childhood and the four STILL got their powers together under Reed's experiment. This movie is gonna blow and I will not give them my money. This sucks!

In every tale Reed and Ben were always friends first from college and the Storms came after, but to have them get their powers separately? That's a BIG departure from the legend. So now, not only you have this difference in them getting their powers but then there's also the rumor that Michael B. Jordan will be the Human Torch? This is NOT the Fantastic Four, this is BS.

Marvel's "Ultimate Fantastic Four" re-imagined the origins story in a way that was plausible and interesting (until the storyline went Zombie-crazy). This potential relaunch origins story IMO wanders too far away from the canon and, I predict, will be no more successful than the previous two-movie run.

It possibly is BS as Josh Trank seems to have dismissed the rumour as being false now. Well. Dismissed the synopsis rumour.

Yeah, I read that this morning. But, I'm still worried about the Michael B. Jordan rump though. That just would introduce a new dynamic that is just not necessary. For him to be Johnny Storm, he and Sue would have to be either halves or adopted siblings which just doesn't jive with me.

someone is boring and has too much time on their hands.........

If they did the origin story from the Ultimate Fantastic Four I would be totally ok with that

I got very excited then, before I realised it said "Kate Mara" and not "Kate O'Mara".

I really like this 'the disclosure of purported plot details is harmful to Fox and to the filmmakers ...the Fox Property prior to its release diminishes the value of Fox's rights in the Fox Property'

Nope I think you do this yourselves - you don't need our help making shoddy and mediocre films - See Turbo, Wolverine, The Internship, the most recent Die Hard film, Prometheus and the Star Wars Prequels

Who's Scott Andrew?

Bring on the parsnips!

I really didn't have much time for another FF movie to start with, seeing as Fox seem to be making it purely so they don't lose the rights, but if Fox are going to get all stroppy with my favourite Geek site, they can forget it. Will save my money for something else

The STAR WARS prequels were made by Lucasfilm, they are only distributed by Fox. Just sayin'! *pedantic nerd*

They are desperate to hang on to the rights, which means they need to make a movie with them, regardless of how rubbish it is. Anyone who has seen Roger Corman's effort will know how well that turns out

Hahahahaha! This is such a brilliant response to what Fox have done. Good job!

You wana know what I think? Here's what I think! I--REMOVED AS A RESULT OF SCARY SOLICITOR LETTER--and Elektra looks at the screen and her eyes turn green as she winks, the end.

Who is Miles Teller, and do we want him playing Reed?

Hahaha! Bless 'em.

He's purportedly playing Reed.

Or uses Ctrl-v a lot.

:D

Well I definitely won't be holding my breath for this one. The last two were at best decent lazy Sunday DVD time wasters (with the second one being a moderate improvement on the first, if only because Doom was better in that one) but nothing special. And this one will be released into a world when I can get my Marvel fix from a creative studio that has shown it knows how to handle its own property. No thanks, Fox (and, just in case any Fox attorneys are pouring over this site, this has nothing to do with any alleged copyright infringement by DoG, but is entirely due to my dim view of both of your cllients' earlier attempts to adapt this property and my utter loathing of needless origin stories).

Haha. Fox are stupid. My two year old daughter could (purportedly) do a better job than their solicitors.

Hey Fox lawyers, over here.

First of all, you've got no jurisdiction over me as an individual commenting on this site. So, I'd just like to say I hope you get a terrible case of haemorrhoids this weekend.

Second, the purported rumours on this site and other (inferior) ones like it are FREE promotion for your clients' work. Priceless. Gold dust. So how about you stop going for the lazy dollar and chase some real bad guys for a change.

It also spoils the theater experience for fans who do not want to know even the rough storyline beforehand

Does this mean that they will have their own Solicitors send them a letter when the trailer comes out?

Three things we'd like to quickly point out:

* From our experience with the RoboCop incident last year, we've learned there's a sizeable difference between a studio's lawyers, and lawyers acting for a studio. This seems to be the latter to us.

* This incident, again as with RoboCop, will not affect our view of the film, the people making it, or the people working on it. The studio in question with the previous incident was not happy that letters were being sent out, and we'd imagine the same applies for Fox.

* If ever we put up anything on the site that crosses the line, we'd urge anyone to just drop us a line. You don't need an expensive legal letter. Just ask!

Purportedly yours,

Den Of Geek

ooooooooooooooooooohhh, la di da, mer mer mer don't go talking about our stuff ooooo no, not unless it's when we want you to, then we send you mugs and keyrings and please talk about our stuff now but not NOW because we don't like it mer mer mer. we've got lawyers mer mer mer.

Or
10 print "Andrew Scott"
20 Goto 10
run

This is what happens when a studio scrambles to hold onto a property that should be allowed to go back to the place where it could be nurtured and grown into something spectacular.
Instead we are faced with the prospect of race changes to a beloved character, costume designs that hold zero resemblance to established looks and designs and yet another retelling of an origin story that really isn't needed.

I've started a company called 'Purportedly', you are in violation of using my company's name without permission on no less than 11 occasions. You will be fined 11 credits. I will accept cheques made payable to The office of Administration for San Angeles. Thanks

He's awesome, I'd generally say I want him playing everyone, butttttt I don't see him as Reed, somehow. But then who knows what Josh Trank is (purportedly) doing with the story?

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