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Why we need child-free cinemas
Mark Oakley
After having Iron Man ruined by eight-year olds, Mark starts his personal crusade to make the cinema-going experience great again. And first up, it's the kids that need to go...
I’ve just got back from finally watching Iron Man at my local Vue. Excellent film aside, despite losing its way a little in the rush to get to that final bout of fisticuffs, I was amazed by how many young children were in screen seven with me.
Iron Man is a 12A certificate, the official definition of which as being suitable for people 12 years and older and that no children under 12 will be allowed in, unless accompanied by an adult. The problem the BBFC has long had is that since the introduction of the 12 certificate for Batman, the pressure to give films a sub-15 rating is huge and Iron Man is a perfect example of falling between two stools. Not gritty enough to be a 15, yet tougher in general themes and violence than a PG. By giving itself that ‘unless accompanied by an adult’ get out clause, the BBFC has effectively absolved some of its responsibility to the general public. The problem with that is that much of the general public, bless ‘em, are incapable of making that decision for themselves.
During Iron Man, I witnessed the following. A young girl in front of me, no older than 8, nuzzling her head into her mum’s shoulder throughout the entire film as she clearly didn’t like the explosions, suggested sex and threat of violence throughout.
Behind me, a group of 6-12 year olds, accompanied by their mother, talking throughout the bulk of the film because they just couldn’t keep up with the plot. Two rows down, a young girl could be heard to say throughout the entire mid-section of the movie ‘it’s scary’, ‘oh it’s scary’, or ‘I’m scared mummy’. A mother two rows behind commented on the suggested sex within the first fifteen minutes, ‘This is for kids, I can’t believe they’re showing this.’ The fact that the film clearly isn’t for kids was lost on her, and therein lies the problem.
If the public are so incapable of being able to ascertain for themselves that Iron Man is going to contain violence, that Tony Stark is a womaniser, hence the possibility of sexual dalliances, and that the entire story of how Stark becomes Iron Man is not an entirely kid-friendly one and therefore perhaps inappropriate for anyone under 12, then they have lost the right to choose what their children deserve to watch. I think that even if you didn’t know much about Iron Man beforehand, the trailer gave a lot of that away. And anyway, if you’re taking your under 12 to see it, isn’t it your responsibility to make sure you know more about the damn film before doing so?
The upshot of all this of course is that my own cinema-going experience is nigh on ruined by distractions. My suggestion of how to stop this is simple: adult-only screenings. Let’s face it, for the real movie fans among us, there’s nothing worse than paying over six pounds for a ticket, only to be annoyed by a bunch of disinterested and impatient young children. Why not have, for just a couple of screenings a day, adult-only admittance to 12A and 15 films. That way, the joys of Indy, Iron Man, and The Dark Knight won’t be ruined.
I think the BBFC should never have created the 12A in the first place. Doing so placed too much power with those incapable of making a mature, considered decision. Adult-only screenings would give serious movie lovers the attention they deserve, and send a message to parents that perhaps this film might not be the one for little Judy after all.
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Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI completley agree - if its not kids talking, its them going to the loo or kicking the back of your seat and while thats all fine for a Pixar flick when you go and see something more 'kidult' like Pirates, Transformers or Iron Man then having bloomin snot-noses running around the gaff spoiling it for us who have paid good hard earned cash on something is a real pain. Maybe if we get them to pay for themselves or else go around to there house when they are watching spongebob and complain that its too scary, weird or borning maybe they will get the hint that they should be quiet. YEs, I know I am being grumpy but when I was a kid I was mesmerized by the cinema and would just watch motionless engrossed in the film, with all the wee-ing, eating and nattering done well before the movie (usually during the Pearl and Dean ads)..grrr i dunno kids nowadays! | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasIt's not just kids! At least not just the young ones. When I went to see Iron Man there were some guys around 18/19 years old sat behind me talking loudly all through the trailers, which annoyed me, but then as soon as the film started one fo them sat there going "seen this bit, seen this bit, seen this bit" over and over (in reference to the opening scene being in the trailer), so for the first time in my life I span round and shouted "well the rest of us f*cking haven't so shut the f*ck up d*ckhead"... and I enjoyed the rest of the film.
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Re: Why we need child-free cinemasAs much as I was geeking about Iron Man I haven't seen it for exactly the same issues mentioned here. I'll get it on Blu-ray in a couple of months and not submit myself to the moron who doesn't think the 'turn mobile phones off' message relates to him, and the kids who laugh at anything. When I was a kid if you annoyed people you'd get chucked out, but these days they won't do that! The irony is that I'll also save money watching it at home...so when Cinema's whine about small audiences I won't have any sympathy, at all. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasHave you considered writing for the Daily Mail? | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI hate children at the cinema. But then I hate children every where. Children are at least as annoying as fully grown people, a group I absolutely detest. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasWhoever it was that said kids aren't the problem was right - it's generally people over 18 who are the most obnoxious in cinemas. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasLet's face it folks.. People today are so media and consumer stupid. They do not read ratings and they don't pay attention to the little things. If people would just realize that they put a rating out there for a reason. I have slipped up on some for my kids. I will admit this but, in general i do pay attention. As we get older and forget about language and sexual content. Because it is past us. If you want to see a movie with out kids may I suggest the later shows. If i want to see a movie i feel like a lot of kids are going to be at I will go to the midnight show. Most kids will not be there. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI'd write for the Daily Mail if they paid enough...and they stopped being excessively liberal and left wing...but they wouldn't have me, I'm sure. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasAll you had to do to shut the children up was shake your cane and screech out, "Get off my lawn!" | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasOne day you might have kids of your own and your opinion on this will change. You'll be so happy to get out of the house that you won't really give a damn who your kids are annoying as long as it isn't you for a change! | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI happen to be fortunate enough to work for Vue; after 10.30 in the evening it's adults only. So, Friday and Saturday nights and some weekdays during the holidays, and that's about it. I bloody wish we could make the cinema completely adult-only. Kids are messy creatures and the parents don't do anything about it any more.
Spidergirl's right, people over 18 generally are bastards when they go to the cinema and think it's okay to chuck their shit everywhere, but the damned children and witless parents need to go. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasCan I hear an Amen brother!! As for the guy who says he waits for it to come out on blu-ray... dude, you're not getting the full cinematic experience. These movies are designed to play on a big screen with full 5.1 digital surround with a sub that really kicks you in the balls. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemas"One day you might have kids of your own...you won't really give a damn who your kids are annoying as long as it isn't you for a change!"
This is why we need I.Q. testing and mandatory sterilization of those who are determined to be too stupid to manage their spawn responsibly.
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Re: Why we need child-free cinemas"One day you might have kids of your own...you won't really give a damn who your kids are annoying as long as it isn't you for a change!
This is why we need I.Q. testing and mandatory sterilization for those determined too stupid to manage their spawn responsibly. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI could not agree more! Went to see Dark Knight and had to deal with stupid punk kids yapping on their cell phones and amongst themselves, tossing Ice and candy across the THeatre. What a joke!
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Re: Why we need child-free cinemasI happen to live in Austin, Texas and have been spoiled from attendance at the Alamo Drafthouse. There is a "no child under 6" policy as well as a heavily enforced and posted "if you talk during the movie, we'll take your ass out" policy. And you get to eat food and drink beer! I took my 5-year old to Iron Man there, and as with any of our visits to the movie theater, there is an understanding that people want to watch the movie and not hear talking, so if he need a bathroom break or more food, he leans over and whispers to me. The staff generally see how well behaved he is and bend the rules because he's a bit young. I would hope that any film lover who gets annoyed with talking would "be the change they want to create" and impart this courtesy, as well as general manners and common sense to their kids. In addition to being able to geek out together, it opens a lot of doors in life that would be otherwise shut. | |
Re: Why we need child-free cinemasPeople's rights to their children can't be taken away; on the contrary children are the inevitable product of their parents and thus the only reasonable interference from the state should be absolutely zero. The only other alternative is for the state to take and raise each child in an institution, and only Hitler would agree to a scheme like that. |
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