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The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner

Simon Brew and Anthony Enticknap


The Ready Reckoner is back! And it's Sylvester Stallone who is our latest victim...

Published on Oct 19, 2007

With John Rambo on the way, Sly is in the midst of a bit of a career resurgence. So we sat him down in the Ready Reckoner Chair….

Rocky Balboa 3 out of 5
Surprisingly good conclusion to the boxing saga. Who’d have thunk it?

Taxi 3 2 out of 5
He’s only in it for five minutes. And speaks French in it.

D-Tox 2 out of 5
Wasn’t released for ages after it was made, and not surprising. Good first half, rancid back end.

Driven 2 out of 5
A film that manages to make the idea of driving a fast car dull, long before The Fast & The Furious did the same thing.

Get Carter
1 out of 5
Atrocious remake. Nothing else to say.

Antz 4 out of 5
Hugely underappreciated computer animated movie. Far better than Shrek.

Cop Land
4 out of 5
A bold career change for Stallone that he never convincingly followed up. Cop Land is a terrific little movie, though.

Daylight
2 out of 5
Crap disaster film which should have been good. Too much shouting, too much pondering, not much of interest.

Assassins 2 out of 5
Another misfire: Richard Donner, Sly and Antonio Banderas should have worked. But it really doesn’t.

Judge Dredd
2 out of 5
Not an outright disaster, but a profound dumping on a British comic legend. Words can’t express how woefully miscast Stallone was. And everyone knew it at the time, too.

The Specialist
3 out of 5
A real guilty pleasure: James Woods, Stallone, dodgy special effects and lots of explosions. We’ll have some of that.

Demolition Man
4 out of 5
A Den Of Geek favourite. We’re already written about it here.

Cliffhanger
3 out of 5
A film that marked a real career rebirth for Stallone. Better on a big screen than small, but it’s the photography that lifts it above standard action fare.

Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot
1 out of 5
Tony really likes this. Simon thinks it’s a staggering disaster. Simon pulled rank, so one star it is.

Oscar 1 out of 5
Terrible mob comedy.

Rocky V
1 out of 5
A boxing film with very little boxing in it! Great idea!

Tango & Cash
4 out of 5
Another Den Of Geek favourite: Stallone and Kurt Russell click, and they should have made lots of sequels.

Lock Up
2 out of 5
Crap. But hilariously crap.

Rambo III
3 out of 5
Cartoon violence. Tony likes it. And as he was sulking over Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot, he was allowed to knock this up to three stars…

Over The Top
1 out of 5
The arm wrestling movie! Wonder why they haven’t have more of them?

Cobra
2 out of 5
Crime is a disease. Meet the cure. Just not a very good cure.

Rocky IV
5 out of 5
A standout moment in 80s cinema. No shit.

Rambo First Blood: Part II 4 out of 5
The good Rambo sequel.

First Blood 4 out of 5
Nearly a five. Back when it was all serious like.

Rocky III
3 out of 5
A fine Rocky sequel, with the genius casting of Mr T lifting it immensely.

Rocky II 4 out of 5
Surprising good, if predictable, sequel.

Escape To Victory 4 out of 5
A fun movie, with Stallone as the world’s least convincing goalkeeper. Fair does though, but Rambo in goal and you’ll never lose on penalties.

Paradise Alley
3 out of 5
Something a bit different and daring, and quite successful too.

Rocky 4 out of 5
The only Stallone film to win a Best Picture Oscar. That's true, that is. It's still really good, too.

Death Race 2000 2 out of 5
Far from a classic. Because Martin says so.


Not watched:

Spy Kids 3-D (and never will watch it – the first one was bad enough)
An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn (supposed to be desperate)
Rhinestone
Nighthawks

And we didn't count all the stuff where he was 'Man In Bar' and things like that (else Klute would have made it onto the list!). Check back next Friday for another Ready Reckoner...

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Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By twosheds 1 October 19, 2007 11:33:09 AM

My name is Martin Anderson and I like Judge Dredd (1995). [Sits down to applause from the other three people at the meeting]

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By simonbrew 1 October 19, 2007 11:38:37 AM

No one is applauding. It's all in your head.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By Ian_Osborne 1 October 19, 2007 12:24:26 PM

Some people obviously have a greater tolerance for jingoistic, predictable cold war propaganda than I do.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By Robmac 1 October 19, 2007 01:28:30 PM

I went to a comic show way back in 1995 where they had a showing of Judge Dredd by the crew who worked on it and some guys from 2000AD who all hated the film and did it for the paycheque . It was utter toss and even though Danny Canon wanted to make something good the suits in Hollywood ruined it. There are so many errors in it and its a desperate attempt to make a British insititution all american and glitzy. The guys there also mention how badly treated some of their characters were treated with the Angel Gang and Hammerstein the biggest losers. Back on topic Sly is just great, a true 1980s action hero and even though he always seems to come across as a big of a lug with a speach problem ( its to do with nerve damage from childbirth) Michael Sylvester Enzio Stallone seems to be a very intelligent chap and has some written and produced some great stuff.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By RonHogan 1 October 19, 2007 03:39:28 PM

Don't worry Martin, I'm applauding. I also like Judge Dredd.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By Robmac 1 October 19, 2007 03:56:29 PM

Martin and Ron - hang your head in shame and hand in you 'Geek-Card'.. as even by the standards of B-movie badness ( see They Live, Arena. Robot Jox etc..) Dredd is just barely one step up from the movie horror that was Batman and Robin

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By twosheds 1 October 19, 2007 04:36:17 PM

Actually I don't mind watching Batman & Robin ; it has some good effects and Uma is pleasant to watch. Right, Ron...? Ron....you there...? hell- oooo .....

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By creativewriter1985 1 October 19, 2007 04:36:29 PM

Gotta love Demolition Man. Slightly prefer the Rocky films to Rambo though... some things are a little too far-fetched to be enjoyable.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By RonHogan 1 October 19, 2007 06:22:45 PM

Oooh, Robot Jox! Classic! (I'm pretending I didn't hear that comment about Batman & Robin. Some things even I can't defend.)

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By twosheds 1 October 19, 2007 07:37:34 PM

Ok, Rob: here's why I like Judge Dredd... a) The Mead-esque production design by Nigel Phelps is not only superb but incredibly faithful to the original look of the comic, and the much derided CGI looks absolutely great to me. b) The ABC Warrior is one of the most solid, industrial-looking robots I have ever seen rendered on screen. c) I'm a fan of Ian Dury and it was great to see him doing his unique cockney thing at Gieger's bazaar. d) With fond memories of the Rico thread in the late 70s, I think Armand Assante was a great choice to play a Dredd clone (he also played Stallone's brother in the under-rated Paradise Alley in 1978). I admit, he chewed the scenery with some gusto, though. e) Rob Schneider was good comic relief, I loved his Stallone impersonation, and it was good to see them together again after Demolition Man . e) Jürgen Prochnow was no worse in it than in all his other bloody awful roles since the masterly Das Boot (1982). f) The blue contact lenses raised Stallone's IQ by about 50 points, and helped me believe he was intelligent enough to be a street-judge. g) Diane Lane looked great in tight leather. h) I found the Angel family a yawn after about 4 pages when reading 2000AD in the 70s; they got exactly as much screen-time as they deserved, and were rendered with amazing fidelity. i) There's a great cat-fight between Joan Chen and Diane Lane("That's Judge Bitch!"). j) The creators of Robocop have already admitted that they plundered Judge Dredd of all its satire for their screenplay, so if that aspect of the film was anemic, it was unavoidable by then. k) With the helmet on, Stallone looked exactly like the comic Dredd (and in fact I admit, as do many involved in the production, that they went too far in sticking to the original designs rather than toning down colours, etc, for the big screen). l) Walter the Wobot wasn't in it. m) The Cocteau Twins and The Cure are on the soundtrack (somewhere....). n) Of course the actor playing Dredd had to take his helmet off. Even if they had cast an unknown, he would have been photographed at the premiere, etc. There was no realistic way of maintaining that conceit, and it would have been pointless to try. But I admit the film's numerous flaws, among which... Awful dialogue. Several awful performances (excepting the reliable Max Von Sydow, a trooper even when (frequently)appearing in shit. Plot holes you could drive a law-master through. (as mentioned above)Over-fidelity to inappropriate and garish comic-strip costumes. Several shoddy effects sequences ...LOL I'll let the film's numerous detractors complete that list!

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By stuxmusic 1 October 20, 2007 12:35:53 AM

Death Race 200 is funny. But not a classic. However, noticing John Landis as a tiny bit part was a nice touch!

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By stuxmusic 1 October 20, 2007 12:37:00 AM

Oh. And Judge Dredd is sinfully woefull.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By sitar_tattoo 1 October 22, 2007 08:52:41 AM

Joan Chen's in Judge Dredd? Holy frakk!

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By Lobscouse 1 October 22, 2007 11:46:59 AM

Please say you are joking about Rocky Balboa being a 'Surprisingly good conclusion to the boxing saga...' are you blind and deaf? if you ganied any enjoyment from sitting through numerous Sly monologues that never seemed to actually get anywhere except up sly's hefty ass then maybe you should be banned from any future ready reckoners. I really can't believe that Balboa and cliff hanger got the same score, this is a disgrace and I am outraged! OUTRAGED!!!!!!! Time for that all important montage....

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By simonbrew 1 October 23, 2007 10:04:53 AM

Rocky Balboa was a smart film. Not a great one, but a smart one. I was really surprised at how well it worked, even if it did ride the formula of the saga quite heavily.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By Kempas 1 October 23, 2007 02:27:36 PM

I like assassins *grumble*, but not as much as Tango and Cash. That massive uber-mobile they make is simply everyone who's ever driven anything's idea of heaven...surely?! The follow-up could have been Pepsi and Credit. Ok...I'll get my coat.

Re: The Sylvester Stallone Ready Reckoner
Posted By moakle 1 October 24, 2007 11:22:30 AM

I split up with a girl after watching Daylight. It was our first and only date. Damn you Stallone. DAMN YOU!
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