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Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter

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In a new interview, Bill Murray talks about his decreasing interest in Ghostbuster 3, and how he made Garfield because he thought one of the Coen Brothers had written it…

Published on Jul 20, 2010

We're really getting a very strong feeling that Bill Murray won't be going anywhere near the third Ghostbusters film when it finally moves into production. Murray, after originally hinting that he would do a cameo of sorts in the film, has done little but attack the project since, albeit with seemingly good reason, and in a new interview in GQ magazine, he's been doing it again.

In the interview, he talks about how Harold Ramis' Year One did the idea of Ghostbusters 3 few favours at all. Here's what he had to say:

"It's all a bunch of crock. It's a crock. There was a story - and I gotta be careful here, I don't want to hurt someone's feelings. When I hurt someone's feelings, I really want to hurt them. [laughs] Harold Ramis said, Oh, I've got these guys, they write on The Office, and they're really funny. They're going to write the next Ghostbusters. And they had just written this movie that he had directed."

That'll be Year One, then.

"Year One. Well, I never went to see Year One, but people who did, including other Ghostbusters, said it was one of the worst things they had ever seen in their lives. So that dream just vaporized. That was gone. But it's the studio that really wants this thing. It's a franchise. It's a franchise, and they made a whole lot of money on Ghostbusters."

He also explains why he went and made the Garfield movie in the interview, which seems to be down to the fact that he thought Joel Coen had written it...

"Finally, I went out to L.A. to record my lines. And usually when you're looping a movie, if it takes two days, that's a lot. I don't know if I should even tell this story, because it's kind of mean. [beat] What the hell? It's interesting. So I worked all day and kept going, ‘That's the line? Well, I can't say that.' And you sit there and go, What can I say that will make this funny? And make it make sense? And I worked. I was exhausted, soaked with sweat, and the lines got worse and worse. And I said, ‘Okay, you better show me the whole rest of the movie, so we can see what we're dealing with.' So I sat down and watched the whole thing, and I kept saying, ‘Who the hell cut this thing? Who did this? What the fuck was Coen thinking?' And then they explained it to me: It wasn't written by that Joel Coen."

The Garfield movie was, in fact, written by Joel Cohen, the screenwriter of Cheaper By The Dozen and Money Talks, and the man who came up with the story for Daddy Day Camp and Evan Almighty.

It seems fairly safe to suggest now that Bill Murray will make neither a sequel to Ghostbusters nor Garfield in the future, although we still wonder if he may perform a bit of an about turn on the former. We can't see it happening, though.

Read the full, excellent GQ interview here.

 

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Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By Deggsy 1 July 20, 2010 07:51:22 AM

A pity that someone of Murray's talent and experience has to fall back on the hoary old tactic of blaming the writer, when it's an established fact that, although the screenplay should be the bedrock of the movie, more often than not it gets chopped up and changed by everyone else, whether it's a studio afraid of offending people or responding to test screenings, or by actors who feel the need to mark their territory. I mean, what's more likely, that the studio got cold feet over the religious satire in the original script and cut out out in favour of dick and fart jokes that would better appeal to their targeted tweenie audience? Or that an experienced comedy writer and director and three writers from a successful comedy show somehow all got it wrong? As for Garfield, what was Murray's excuse for Garfield 2, or Charlie's Angels, or Osmosis Jones, or Space Jam? Sounds more like Murray is peeved that the Ghostbusters line is prepared to go on without him in anything more than a cameo.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By Robmac 1 July 20, 2010 08:13:30 AM

He could still come back as a Zombie Ghost - as after Zombieland I would think this would be a good way to make a cameo in Ghostbusters 3.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By PandaJazz 1 July 20, 2010 11:06:04 AM

He is starting to sound like a bit of a dick to be honest.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By robjphat 1 July 20, 2010 11:24:54 AM

rather than moaning about this in every interview he does, i wish Bill Murray would just use that energy to film a 3 minute cameo for Ghostbusters 3 so we can finally get to see this long rumoured movie. come on Bill, no one likes a mardy celeb

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By KWillyvox 1 July 20, 2010 12:50:28 PM

I'm with Bill on this one. He'd be singing a different tune if he thought GB3 had a golden script. Truth is, Ghostbusters had a time and place. It was great and it was an original spin on an old formula. If GB3's script read even close to GB!, then we wouldn't be hearing this. Go back to Ghostbusters...the first 45 minutes are absolutely perfect...that's lightning in a bottle.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By hulk_smash75 1 July 20, 2010 02:47:40 PM

He's bagging Year One without even seeing it?! The fact that it IS shit doesn't excuse him paying out on something he has never seen or saying that a GB3 would suck because they made a bad movie that time around.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By FonceFalooda 1 July 20, 2010 03:39:02 PM

Panda, accusing him of being a dick implies that you loved "Year One" and "Garfield". If you did, then feel free to tell him to shut up. However, if you agree with him that those flicks weren't up for Picture of the Year, then you might have to admit that the man has a point.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By TeeVeeStevie 1 July 20, 2010 07:23:19 PM

Degsy 1: Murray never did Garfield 2 it's another actor doing the voice. Af for the other films you listed? Well, no-one can predict if a film is going to turn out bad or not until it is actually made. The fact that Murray doesn't appear in the Charlie's Angels sequel speaks volumes as to how he thought the first Charlie's Angels film turned out.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By hristinho18 1 July 20, 2010 10:05:31 PM

Bill Murray DOES seem to be behaving like a bit of a dick about this whole thing. He could always, you know, take some ownership for projects he has been or will be involved in. A little creative input before and during production would go a long way. And I havent sat thru Year One cos what I have tried to watch is diabolical. As was Garfield. And I DID sit thru that. IMDb does have Bill Murray listed for its even shitter sequel btw. Lorenzo Music was the voice I grew up with for the cartoon. He was also the voice of Venkman in The Real Ghostbusters... *Twilight Zone music*

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By Kapp 1 July 20, 2010 11:36:57 PM

Murray's idea of coming back for ghostbusters 3, but only if he could play a ghost, was actually a very creative idea. Venkmen could be a kind of spectral "advice giver" to the remaining Ghostbusters, dropping vital clues and bits of info here and there, along with humourous jokes, as they try to solve a riddle to defeat whatever the "big bad" is of the film...It seems like these great and innovative hooks come along and these writers ignore the possibilities, instead seeking to "retread, reuse, recycle" -- Yes, that might seem like a "bummer", to "kill off" the main character, but that'd be more of an opportunity for Bill Murray's comedy to really go off...playing practical jokes on people and dissapearing, only to appear somewhere else on the other side of the room laughing, etc... The possibilities here are many, and they arent seeming to go with it

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By Deggsy 1 July 21, 2010 06:05:43 AM

TeeVeeStevie: Bill Murray is listed as the voice of Garfield in the sequel, per imdb. If Murray isn't being facetious about the Coen/Cohen story, then it suggests that he went into the project without reading the script, and on the basis of his own mistake, he should just do a mea culpa and not insult the guy who got hired to write a script for a kid's movie and not a Coen Brother's movie. Personally I don;t find any problem with an actor who takes a project for money alone, in between the "worthier" efforts that come along, I just wish some of them wouldn't act like they didn't know what they were getting into when they do it.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By cerveloguy 1 July 21, 2010 06:07:36 AM

A bad workman balmes his tools. And as Murray is a tool and a bad workman in this case, not so good. He had a humour by pass in the late 80's anyway.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By Carbontoe 1 July 21, 2010 07:57:07 AM

Am I the only person (apart from Bill) that thinks Ghostbusters III is a bad idea. If they want to revisit the francise they should just do a total reboot and not try and cling onto the past (i.e. Blues Brothers 2000)

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By desandman 1 July 21, 2010 10:06:48 AM

I think to hell with Murray and do it without him. Have a scene where they show his grave. His ghost rises up from the grave and he looks just like Slimer. Get some impersonator to do his voice.

Re: Bill Murray vs Ghostbusters 3: the latest chapter
Posted By gakirin 1 July 21, 2010 08:20:19 PM

I don't understand why people like this guy so much. He was funny, once upon a time, but no longer.... let him go
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