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The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument

Simon Brew


After the song and dance of the last few weeks, it seems odd that Disney wouldn't first arrest the gaps in its own release schedule, before going head to head with the Odeons, Cineworlds and Vues of this world

Disney wants the cinematic release window shortened to 12 weeks, as is happening with Alice In Wonderland. But has it overlooked something obvious?

Published on Mar 11, 2010

It's been a week or two now since Disney was embroiled in a battle with cinema chains in the UK over the release of Alice In Wonderland. The very brief recap: Disney wants to cut the theatrical release window of a film to 12 weeks, while cinema chains want it at 17. The spat was ultimately settled, and Alice In Wonderland brought in over $200m worldwide at the box office. It's also heading for DVD in just over two months. Everyone's a winner. We think.

The interesting factor about this was Disney's reasons for shortening the theatrical window. It argued that this was because it was trying to close down the window for pirates. That, basically, by shortening the amount of time before people could get their hands on a legitimate DVD or Blu-ray, it would keep people away from trying to get their mucky paws on pirated copies of the film.

There may be some logic to the argument, and it also could be that Disney wants to save on marketing costs by contracting down the promotional period for a major release. I don't think too many people are convinced that the 12-week window is a magic wand that'll erase piracy, but I'm gratified that a film studio is trying something positive, rather than waving the rod of the law over our heads. I think it's safe to say that we're all a bit fed up with anti-piracy commercials on our legally-bought DVDs.

And yet, here's the contradiction, as pointed out by Den Of Geek reader Nocturne yesterday. If Disney is so committed to minimising opportunities for piracy, why is it the last studio out there that regularly runs staggered releases on some of its major films?

Arguably Disney's biggest film of the year is going to be Toy Story 3. It looks amazing, and we can't wait to see it. But, while Disney released Alice In Wonderland simultaneously around the world, here's how the Toy Story 3 release dates pan out, starting with the earliest date through to the latest:

Egypt: 16 June
USA: 18 June
Australia: 24 June
Japan: 10 July
UK: 23 July
Denmark: 26 August
Turkey: 3 September

So, for its big movie of the year, Disney is staggering the release by - are you ready for this? - 11 weeks. Does that not render much of what it was fighting for with Alice In Wonderland redundant?

If Disney were to stick to its 12-week cinematic window plan for Toy Story 3, then the residents of Turkey then may have the opportunity to choose to download a rip of the Egyptian DVD release instead, or simply import it. They'd only have a week to wait. Isn't that going against what Disney is actually fighting for? We're not advocating piracy here - far from it, to be clear - but it seems an odd oversight on Disney's part.

Now granted, family movies, in particular, traditionally have to wrap around school holidays, which are clearly at different times of the year in different places around the world. And yet, look at the Alice In Wonderland numbers. That's a family movie, and yet it doesn't seem to have been hurt by being released when the kids are at school. And you can bet it will still be playing come the Easter holidays anyway.

Just to be clear, Toy Story 3 isn't an isolated case. Let's just focus on the difference between US and UK release dates across Disney's recent big family releases. The Princess And The Frog premiered in the US on November 25th, getting a wide release on December 11th, but it didn't turn up in the UK until February 5th.

Up was a massive summer hit for Pixar last year, but it arrived in America on May 29th, taking nearly five months to get to the UK with an October 9th release date. The year before, Bolt made its US bow on November 21st, but didn't get to Britain until February 6th the following year. Heck, that one didn't arrive in Japan until August, nearly 10 months after its US release.

True, there are localisation issues that have an impact there too, but it's still puzzling why English-speaking countries have to wait quite so long. It's, surely, an archaic  holdover from the pre-Internet, pre-DVD days (take that from someone who had to wait a year extra to watch The Nightmare Before Christmas on a big screen, just as it was hitting VHS in the US).

Granted, Disney is adopting global roll-outs on the likes of Tron: Legacy. But even on something like The Sorceror's Apprentice, there's a staggered release: 16th July in the US, 13th August in the UK.

Scheduling a film, in all fairness, is no easy art. But after the song and dance of the last few weeks, it seems odd that Disney wouldn't first arrest the gaps in its own release schedule, before going head to head with the Odeons, Cineworlds and Vues of this world. For if it really is committed to closing up the gaps in the cinematic release window as tightly as possible, it seems to us that it might be an idea to get its internal release strategy sorted first.

With thanks again to Nocturne.

 

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Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By Nocturne 1 March 11, 2010 09:06:32 AM

Thanks for the name check :) didn't think it'd inspire an article. Part of it is just because I'm impatient and after the film comes out in one territory you're then having to dodge spoilers. But when you think that Princess & The Frog comes out on DVD in the states on the 16th (I think) and Blu-Ray ripping is pretty well perfected now. It makes no sense to have such a large gap between releases, when a family can save themselves £40 on a cinema trip and just download a perfect copy of the movie.

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By evanjdooner 1 March 11, 2010 11:49:43 AM

I agree that staggering movies internationally is a problem and a global release is preferable. I would go as far to say that Blu-Ray/DVD should be releases simultaneously with the theatrical release. Here's my reasoning: firstly, BR/DVD is no replacement for the experience of going to the cinema.If you really prefer watching a disc than going to your local cinema, that's just your thing, or you have a terrible cinema. What if you go to the cinema, love the film and then the BR/DVD is available to buy in the foyer immediately afterwards, maybe with a discount for people with ticket stubs? now add in bringing your kids with you: you are going to buy that disc. For the people that don't go to the cinema, surely it's better to have a BR/DVD product available as early as possible? I know plenty of people that are more than happy to watch a cam or R5 version of a movie (though, usually in conjunction with going to see it in the theatre, if it's good). Just some thoughts.

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By diego 1 March 11, 2010 12:15:53 PM

The studios are only hurting them selves with stupid decisions like this. I don't think TS or Cam copies of movies is really hurting the cinematic version of it. Most of us prefer to see it in proper quality. But many will settle for R5 releases as it has a good picture quality from a dvd. Now the studios are trying to battle piracy in countries like russia by issuing these releases. But they instantly find away back to the original market, of the film The USA. And plenty would rather watch a r5 for free than pay the bucks for the cinema. Another thing is that smaller countries like denmark and sweeden and so on. quite frequently get movies so late that they are already out on dvd, and in some cases months before the cinematic release so the cinemas don't have the upper hand anymore. Shortening the span from cinema to Blu-Ray/DVD might further hurt the international market. Another thing is that some people might be willing to wait for 12 weeks just to download a good Blu-ray rip for free. So shortening the cinematic release could for some be an incentive not to go as a copy of the film will arrive shortly on the net. Although piracy doesn't seem to be hitting the business all that hard either way

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By MadProphet 1 March 11, 2010 12:57:25 PM

I didn't know there was a month-long gap between US and UK on Toy Story 3... BASTARDS! :@

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By mark-reed 1 March 11, 2010 01:15:34 PM

Let us not forget the 2 month gap between "Phantom menace" Uk and US release. A friend of mine flew over to the states to see it. I watched a dodgy VHS camcorder copy six weeks before it came out in the UK. It didn't get much better on the big screen...

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By syrdax 1 March 11, 2010 03:05:28 PM

Well, in Spain, we have to wait from a month to 1 year from movies to show up here. There are a lot of cases of movies already on DVD but about to be shown next month on cinemas. Thing is, if you want to watch the movie in Spanish language (not same as Spanish from America) you will just have to wait, otherwise, either you pirate the movie or just buy it from Amazon or even Fnac.

Re: The logic gap in Disney's anti-piracy argument
Posted By Goooner 1 March 11, 2010 10:34:32 PM

Disney's reason for shortening the window on this release is simple, they want the DVD out before the world cup starts. It's a notorious time for bad sales.
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