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The problems with the 3D bandwagon

Simon Brew


My suspicion is that whenever 3D is added as a post-production fix - and I'm more than happy to be proved wrong here - that its impact is dampened considerably

Warner Bros confirms Clash Of The Titans and Harry Potter are going 3D, and Transformers 3 is likely to be 3D too. But is a 3D bolt-on really the way to go?

Published on Feb 3, 2010

Two interesting stories arrived in our mailbox today. Firstly, we had the news that Warner Bros was, indeed, confirming the rumours that it was bolting 3D onto a series of its already-in-production features. So, as reported previously, Clash Of The Titans is having 3D tacked on and its release date pushed back to April 2nd as a result, while Cats & Dogs: The Revenge Of Kitty Galore, Guardians Of Ga'Hoole and both upcoming Harry Potter films are heading for 3D as well.

The second story was about Paramount's desire to do Transformers 3, which starts shooting later this year in 3D. Yet, according to Variety, "The big stumbling block is the extra time required to do production and visual effects in 3D, as the movie's release date is already set." Question marks are being asked about whether Michael Bay and his team have time - ahead of the 2011 release of the film - to take the film 3D. In short, adding 3D isn't something you want to tackle overnight.

But isn't that not far from what's happening? Because as early as the start of last month, it seemed that Warner Bros hadn't signed off on the decision to retrofit 3D to Clash Of The Titans. And now that it has done, the work is being done in triple-quick time, forcing, at worst, a two-week release date delay. I may be going out on a limb here, but unless Warner Bros has access to a serious impressive 3D post-production system, Clash Of The Titans is not going to be a 3D poster child. Instead, it's a cash grab, pure and simple.

The catalyst for all of this, of course, is James Cameron's Avatar. 3D screenings of the most successful film of all time at the box office (in terms of cash taken) have accounted for a substantial slice of the film's revenues (on some weekends up to 80% of the film's takings are reported to have come from 3D screenings). And the benefit, of course, to 3D is that you can whack a premium on top of the ticket price too, whether people want to see a film in 3D or not.

The signs are, though, with Avatar that they very much do, and to be fair, this has been a film designed from the ground up with that in mind. Likewise with Robert Zemeckis' A Christmas Carol back before Christmas. Whatever your take on the current 3D craze, it still, undoubtedly, works better when a film has been designed to take advantage of it from day one.

Warner Bros can't say that of its features. Instead, it's applying a post-production 3D fix to films that simply weren't shot with the idea of being watched by an audience wearing 3D glasses. Cameron, you can truly believe, planned his movie top to bottom with that in mind. Louis Letterier, the director of Clash Of The Titans, was reported to be reluctant to add 3D to the film given the tightness of the schedule, and it's a fair bet that when he first stood on set for the first shot some time ago, 3D was not at the forefront of his mind.

But it's certainly at the forefront of movie studio executives' brains now, and that's why Transformers 3 will be in 3D, whether it's added in post-production or part and parcel of the shoot. We'd bet on the former.

Last year, we interviewed one of the animators of Ice Age: Dawn Of The Dinosaurs, Hans Dastrup (you can read the interview here), and he talked about how the stereoscopic team came in with just under a year left on the production of the project. That, he argued, was a tight squeeze, not helped by the fact that "a lot of us were not super-excited about doing it in 3D". And while Dastrup went on to declare his happiness with the end result, the fitting of 3D to Ice Age: Dawn Of The Dinosaurs could, perhaps, best be described as 'very, very subtle' rather than 'impactful'.

The same could be levelled at Warner Bros' decision to turn the opening scene of Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince into 3D lasy year. It allowed it to put 3D on the poster, no matter how ineffective the end result actually was (very ineffective, in case you missed it). And my suspicion is that whenever 3D is added as a post-production fix - and I'm more than happy to be proved wrong here - that its impact is dampened considerably. As noted before, at least when a project is 3D from the ground up, it's easier to buy into.

That said, there are still the same problems that 3D technology is throwing up. The main one, and we're hearing this a lot, is that it's inducing headaches in some people who are sitting and watching movies with 3D glasses on. We spoke to a major Hollywood film director recently, who hasn't yet made a 3D film, who expressed his excitement for the technology. But he did also say that about half the people he knew of who had seen Avatar were complaining of headaches. That's anecdotal, certainly, but we'd be keen to see some solid work done on that. Because it does appear to be a significant problem, and one that's being brushed aside in the 3D goldrush.

There's also, of course, the great unsaid. For the end viewer, how has the 3D experience actually changed since we sat in cinemas watching Jaws 3D? Apart from the fact that the films have got a lot better, I can't help feeling that the jump in end result isn't that seismic. We're not seeing the 3D equivalent of jumping from mono to full surround sound here. The glasses are better, and the technology underpinning the 3D has improved. But the end 3D effect is slightly improved, rather than dramatically so, and perhaps film makers are more adept at using it.

I still don't get the feeling that I could reach out and touch what's coming out of the screen, and, ironically, it's often the gimmicky films - such as the terrible Journey To The Center Of The Earth remake or numerous horror movies - that actually make better use of 3D. Journey does the equivalent of staring down the camera at you, deliberately firing 3D effects slap bang at the centre of your point of vision, arguably when the technology is at its most directly effective.

Major Hollywood blockbusters won't, rightly, do that. Instead though, the 3D will be ‘subtle', which is, arguably, an excuse for the ticket price to be a bit more expensive without a great deal of difference in the end result. At least Journey To The Center Of The Earth, for all its faults, was honest.

That said, this is a bandwagon that's not worth fighting right now. Just look at the months ahead. Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland and DreamWorks' How To Train Your Dragon are both major 3D movies coming in March, and the former of these at least is the kind of project that, in principal, could be greatly aided by the technology, especially if it employs it in a way similar to Coraline (the film for which there's an argument that it employs 3D better than any so far).

Plus, of course, there's Clash Of The Titans in April, a film I'm doubly fascinated to see, simply to find out how much 3D can be bolted onto a movie in a handful of weeks, and how effective that process can be. For if Warner Bros' gamble works, and there's little reason to suspect that it won't have a financial benefit to the studio, then you can expect a lot of films currently shooting to follow the same post-production 3D respray before they make it to the big screen...

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Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By lemonade 1 February 3, 2010 10:44:06 AM

I saw Harry Potter 6 in IMAX, and I couldn't spot any of the 3D. It was supposed to be there, but blink and miss it... I still remember seeing Monsters Vs Aliens in 3D IMAX, looking out across the cinema during the opening, and seeing a sea of children reaching out to touch what was 'flying at them' in 3D. Very cool. I'm not a fan of the 3D craze, but from a studio perspective as well it probably dampens the piracy effect - and if people want to see the movie, they're going to miss out on the 3D if they wait for blu-ray/dvd. If they stuff up the next two Harry Potter films as a result though, I will NOT be happy...

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By Nocturne 1 February 3, 2010 11:24:37 AM

I definetly agree with the comment on Coraline having some of the most effective 3D out there. I feel if the retrofitting goes on just to squeeze a few more pennies out of people it's going to very quickly kill the novelty of 3D off again. Saw a trailer for a CGI kids film before Avatar (which seemed to use a similar story) and it just looked like flat objects moving within a 3D plane with all the deptch of putting card board cutouts in a box at different distances.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By Robmac 1 February 3, 2010 11:51:40 AM

I think 3D movies, as with 3D television has potential, and is seen by production companies as a new way to get audiences to go out or watch (ie part with money) rather than download a product. However I do not see 3D being the future of movies or telly as there are some fundemental issues 'wrong' with it. Firstly the idea of glasses, really would you sit at home watching Eastenders wearing glasses? I already wear glasses and really do not look forward to my evenings trying to balance both pairs on my nose. Secondly the gimmick of 3D will soon fade. I saw Avatar in 3D and thought it was superb, not because it was in 3D but because it was a good film, I stopped noticing the 3D element about ten minutes in - its a lot like HD, you start by going 'oh thats clear' then you forget. FInally we are a nation are not set up in our living rooms for 3D. Most of us live in normal houses and have normal size rooms. Some have big tellies by the majority of people have normal size 26 or 32 inch TVs - seeing anything in 3D at that size is pointless. Go to a 50 inch plazma to get the benefit and thats the majority of your lounge taken up.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By bartyboy 1 February 3, 2010 12:37:39 PM

Interesting article(as too are the comments before this). I thought Avatar made clever use of 3D to add depth rather than rely on the 'throwing things at you' trick but to be fair my experience of modern 3D is limited. However, I truly hope the studios are not just smelling the extra 3 or 4 quid a ticket as I suspect they are...I thought the 3D aspect of Avatar took a lot of effort, money and technology to perfect, but I feel the upcoming '3D' films are going to revert to type....oooh, it looks like optimus is falling into the front row of the cinema! look out for that tyre! That scorpion's claws are....are coming OUT of the screen! etc etc. Do it properly or don't bother. Mind you, that comment about getting headaches / nausea rang true for me, took a while to get used to it in Avatar.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By TheTeacher 1 February 3, 2010 01:33:07 PM

I watched "Up" in 3D and though I liked the film a lot, I wasn't that impressed by the "new" 3D. First of all I didn't like that greyish hue, secondly the second pair of glasses I had to put over my normal ones were really uncomfortable... and I DID indeed feel some sort of headache... No, 3D is not my thing.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By benheck 1 February 3, 2010 02:42:56 PM

Post Production 3D is the new Colorization but nobody's calling it out on that. Much like colorization, from what I've seen it's not even close to a movie actually shot in 3D. Worse than colorization, it actually slices up and multiplanes a film, adding background where there wasn't before. Really quite terrible.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By Interference 1 February 3, 2010 03:47:34 PM

Most people seem to ignore the colour loss of the picture. Not even morons wear sunglasses in the cinema, but now.. everyone is?

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By geekmom 1 February 3, 2010 03:53:43 PM

The novelty has already worn off. My kids are more interested in seeing the difference in the film with glasses on or off. And headaches? Oh, yeah. Not even the 3D Imax dinosaur movie we saw at the National Museum of Natural History over Christmas was worth that. My head got stomped on by a Giganotosaur in more ways than one.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By nicko71 1 February 3, 2010 05:03:29 PM

Is colourloss a problem? I know this was an issue with red/green glasses, but everyone uses polarized ones these days. Converting a film to 3D could be a right faf, but filming a film in 3d from scratch shouldn't make much difference to production times. CGI Rendering times may take a bit longer, but the set up shouldn't take any longer (seeing as most effects packages are 3d anyway). The only thing is, this is typical of the morons in Hollywood. James Cameron is successful because he makes an original movie*, and Hollywood immediately looks at a single element of it, assumes that is what made it popular, and copies it. I'm surprised that there isn't a series of different films featuring blue people in the offing**. * Original movie at least, but apparently copied off hundreds of different stories ** I read yesterday that there is a CGI smurfs film in production. FFS!!

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By Footnote75 1 February 3, 2010 07:11:51 PM

Please, not 3D all the time. I'm very long-sighted and have trouble with it even when it's well done. It also gives me a headache half the time. This is the next 'in thing', isn't it? Damn, damn, damn...

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By kivgeek 1 February 4, 2010 02:57:46 AM

I thiink 3D is growing so fast because its easy. AND HDTV & Blu-ray makes my home better than the mall (except no one can make the over priced bucket of corn as good as a theater) but 3D is cheap and gives a temporary edge to a theater (soon the HD3DTV will demand product and even crappy product will be grabbed I only have one working eye so 3-D is lost on me i just sit with my 56inch led and make do

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By martyhopkirk 1 February 4, 2010 01:11:54 PM

I've only got one eye! Do you know how frustrating it is to listen to people gushing about wonderful effects and not be able to see them? This 3D nonsense has got to stop! I'm going to write to Gordon Brown; he'll sympathize.

Re: The problems with the 3D bandwagon
Posted By joer6 1 February 4, 2010 11:37:45 PM

The 'visual language' of 3D hasn't been developed yet. The fast moving action scenes in Avatar are almost unwatchable. Frantic jump cuts don't work in 3D. The type of movies that would work well in 3D - with a slow panning or even static camera shots - never get made. Creepy horror movies would work well in 3D - or any 'atmospheric' genre that allow the audience to totally immerse themselves in the scene.
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