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Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?

Simon Brew


The rights to the Terminator may be on the move again. Where does this leave the mooted Terminator 5?

Published on Sep 29, 2009

Yesterday, we reported on how the financial troubles at MGM were adding a little uncertainty to the future of both The Hobbit and 007 franchises. While, we concluded, there's no way that either wouldn't be going ahead shortly, the issue of who will be funding movies such as these has been brought firmly into focus.

Today, it's the turn of the Terminator franchise. Over at the Los Angeles Times, they've been dissecting the financial problems facing Halcyon Holdings, the company that picked up the rights to the Terminator back in 2007 and produced Terminator: Salvation. The firm is reported to be looking at ways to make itself solvent again, having filed for bankruptcy, and the one big entry on its asset register is the rights to the Terminator.

However, it owns the rights to the Terminator at a time when its standing isn't particularly high. On the small screen The Sarah Connor Chronicles may have notched up impressive reviews, but it failed to garner ratings, and was canned at the end of its second season. That's ended the future of the Terminator on television in the short to medium term, at least, not helped by the price tag required to get a new Terminator show up and running.

Meanwhile, there's Terminator: Salvation, whose worldwide take helped propel it to a global box office take of $371m. Yet its US gross of $125m will have set off warning bells, not least because of the $200m it cost to make the film (before marketing costs). Even though director McG was keen to talk up the idea of a fifth Terminator film earlier this year (Salvation was, after all, supposed to mark the start of a new trilogy), there doesn't seem to have been much appetite to get Terminator 5 up and running (at a time when Star Trek and Iron Man sequels got moving a whole lot quicker).

Halcyon Holdings picked up the Terminator rights for $25m, and it's almost inevitable that it's going to have sell them on at least in part, with financial advisors FTI Capital Advisors telling the L.A. Times that "We think the values are considerably in excess of the purchase price."

The Terminator rights have, of course, been through similar ills before, and the current asking price for them is reported to be in the region of $60m. You would have to assume that, were a studio to stump up that kind of money for them, then the least it would be looking to do would be to make another movie. Whether this would happen soon, or whether it would follow on from Salvation, remains to be seen.

Whoever ends up with the Terminator on their asset register, all this has undeniably put a spanner in the works for the next film, which you can't imagine happening until 2012 at the earliest, unless all concerned get things sorted very quickly indeed. In the meantime, many eyes, you suspect, will be on the DVD and Blu-ray performance of Terminator: Salvation when it starts its roll-out in November.

Los Angeles Times

 

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Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By Davros 1 September 29, 2009 08:34:54 AM

Terminator = Boring, been their, enjoyed the films in their day but now let them lie. RIP

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By cordas 1 September 29, 2009 09:32:45 AM

Maybe this will be the best thing for them... Afterall T4 was a stinking steaming pile that made 3 look like a great film... T:SCC was a brave departure from the format of the original movies, but then it had to be... It was always going to loose audience share at the start but with a bit of supportive scheduling and realistic expectations the show could have become a solid performer attracting good audience share and really good DVD returns. T:SCC is going to be the next Firefly... Great show that got killed before it had a chance by a network that wanted the magic from the 1st episode.

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By Nocturne 1 September 29, 2009 09:43:47 AM

Rumour is that Arnold may be after the rights himself, apparantly he didn't get paid for his "cameo" in Salvation and is considering legal action, but would be willing to take over the rights.

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By evol 1 September 29, 2009 12:04:32 PM

Back into limbo? it's been there since T2. Hilarious that Arnie would be willing o take over the rights to the Terminator as payment for a cameo! I bet he would...

who cares; Primeval is back!:
Posted By Grrr 1 September 29, 2009 01:53:07 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8280734.stm

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By Nocturne 1 September 29, 2009 02:43:51 PM

That just comes across as an excuse to shoehorn in a link to a tedious Saturday evening show. Lets face it Terminator will only be back in safe hands if James Cameron comes back to rescue his baby.

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By sailorgaia 1 September 29, 2009 03:01:40 PM

Personally, I wish people would have the sense to let these franchises die gracefully but then again I'm not the one trying to milk every last scent out of this cash cow. As a fan, I would hope they’d just leave Terminator alone and let it drift off into the ocean of other movie classics. It's over; quite trying to play Frankenstein with the story!

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By kail 1 September 29, 2009 07:16:14 PM

I really started to dislike Fox because of Firefly . Now with TSCC I just plain hate them.

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By essjayar 1 October 3, 2009 02:08:32 PM

Return to the original timeline... and ignore the other movies after T2. Get James Cameron involved, and make a true action blockbuster with the original characters (Sarah Connor, John, etc). Simple!

Re: Is the Terminator franchise heading back into limbo?
Posted By miladyblue 1 October 4, 2009 04:13:22 AM

As much as I would LOVE to see James Cameron return to the Terminator franchise, I somehow don't think he will, especially given the ending to T2 - he left it deliberately open ended, not for an endless parade of sequels, but to provoke thought about how changing the present for the better could give us a better future. Of course, we all know "thought" and "Hollywood" are mutually exclusive anymore.
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