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George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5

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George Lucas has been discussing some details about the fifth adventure in the Indiana Jones franchise, and specifically the hunt for a suitable MacGuffin.

Published on Dec 13, 2011


Steven Spielberg recently gave his own update about a possible fifth Indiana Jones film, essentially saying that it was in the hands of George Lucas. Now Lucas has discussed the same topic in a recent interview, and hinted that he’s in search of a MacGuffin for the film.

Lucas, Spielberg and Harrison Ford disagreed over the MacGuffin used in Indiana Jones And The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, so finding one for the fifth instalment could prove to be equally problematic. Spielberg had said that, thus far, a genre was in place for the fifth instalment. But Lucas said of the subject:

“Actually, I told him I didn't have it yet. I told him about the story, but I really haven’t found the MacGuffin yet. I mean, I know what it’s about, but I just have to find a MacGuffin that fits into the arena we’re working in.”

Whatever the genre or the MacGuffin ends up being, I dearly hope the script is solid and delivers a movie of a greater standard than its predecessor. I’d acknowledge that all of the Indiana Jones moments have their ridiculous moments but The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull pushed it a little too far for my liking.

More on Indy 5 when we get it.

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Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By picknmix 1 December 14, 2011 07:53:54 AM

I just wished that when George comes back with a bad idea that Steven told him 'no', for all our sakes.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By Barchester 1 December 14, 2011 10:12:57 AM

Make it something biblical/mythological again and have a mysterious cult try to take over the world with it. Those elements made the best two Indy films out of the bunch after all. That, or just go with The Fate of Atlantis, which begs to be made into a film.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By DamonD 1 December 14, 2011 10:14:29 AM

I just wish that people can keep an open mind about this and give Indy 5 a chance at least. If it sucks, it sucks, but treat it on its own terms. Fingers crossed they do get a better raison d'etre this time, cos as I've banged on about enough times I found Ford still surprisingly believable as Indy and I'd like to see him served better with another crack of the whip (ahem).

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By DamonD 1 December 14, 2011 10:15:36 AM

Barchester - actually a pretty good shout too.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By Nostromo71 1 December 14, 2011 10:35:15 AM

I LOVED the fourth movie and don't understand the hatred of it at ALL. Do people not remember the original 3 movies - all are full of patently ridiculous ideas and scenes - the notion that Indy 4 'jumped the shark' is pure nonsense. I certainly agree that George Lucas' revisions to the original Star Wars films (beyond remastering and making the light sabers look better) were misguided at best and insulting at worst.. but Indiana Jones & The Crystal Skull was a cracking film and I look foward to the next one! Anyway - just my opinion - I know many won't agree!

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By HarrisonFord 1 December 14, 2011 10:58:38 AM

Indy 4 was just badly written. No motivation for Indy, non-threatening bad guys, crap dialogue and bad exposition. The first twenty minutes are excelent, which were mostly all George's ideas, which may surprise some people. The rest of the film slowly unwinds to a ridiculous CGI fest. Perhaps the next Indy film should be given to Pixar?

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By pete3206 1 December 14, 2011 12:49:24 PM

"More on Indy 5 when we get it" translates: "when we find another Indy 5 rumour, we'll copy and paste it from Google News"

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By Omniaural 1 December 14, 2011 01:38:29 PM

@Nostromo71 - you're right Indy 4 didn't jump the shark. It Nuked the Fridge.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By tombombadil66 1 December 14, 2011 01:55:45 PM

The fourth film was better than the fanboys made out. All of the films are preposterous from an archeological standpoint, so adding aliens was no worse than having angels in Raiders. Last Crusade was my least favourite.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By Darren_Carnall 1 December 14, 2011 02:43:04 PM

There was only one part about Indy 4 that I thought was ridiculous and annoying, and that was Shia swinging through the trees monkey-style. I'd have accepted one large swing out of the forest... but a series of vine-to-vine tarzan swings? Pfft... also some of Spielbergs outside shots were lit in such a way that they ended up looking like INTERNAL shots shot in a studio. Didn't understand that. Oh, and the 'interdimensional beings' or whatever they were... should've just been called aliens. Not really sure why George thought there was anything wrong with just calling them what they clearly were! And I wish they'd given Marion more to do! She used to be really fiesty. ok that was more than one thing, but apart from the tarzan swings they were all small things that were easily fixable. I still enjoyed the film though, just wish these simple things hadn't got past the makers.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By gandarthvader 1 December 14, 2011 02:48:50 PM

I don't think that the MacGuffin (aliens) was the preposterous part of Indy 4, it was the ride to get there. Swinging in the trees with monkeys? CGI killer ants? The sword fight through the jungle which just felt like people in front of green screens? Not to mention the obvious nuking of the fridge. It all just felt wrong.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By popebadass 1 December 14, 2011 06:21:37 PM

Frankly, nuking the fridge was not a problem. Indy has fallen from a crashing plane with a kid sidekick and an annoying (if hot) blonde singer in tow, while using a life raft to sled down a mountain, fall off a cliff and land safely in a raging river. To me nuking the fridge was simply more of the same impossible action that we come to expect from the franchise. Inter-dimensional beings (aliens), again no problem. Indy has had help from the angel of death, Shiva via the sankara stones, and a 800? Year old knight Templar. Without one whit of sarcasm, only the swinging on vines with a monkey army!!! and those terrible cgi ants (well all the terrible cgi really) brought the movie low for me. Give that flick more practical effects and less silliness and it was at least as good as "Temple" or "Last Crusade". I even give Shia a pass on this one, there are parts where he is pretty good (not great) in this one. Spielberg as director has just as much blame in this one as Lucas does. We just have more fun bashing Lucas because of the horror he made of the SW franchise.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By popebadass 1 December 14, 2011 06:29:02 PM

Also I think the Spear of Longinus (spear of destiny) would be a pretty great Macguffin. Have Indy race against some escaped Nazis living in Argentina to recover it before they use it to start a Fourth Reich or something. It bookends the series pretty well and shows Indy fighting nazis one last time. Oooh, I have goosebumps just thinking about it. Maybe they can do a sort of Hellboyish thing where they intend to use it to raise an elder god or some such thing. C'mon people I can't do all the work here!!!

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By Aginoth 1 December 15, 2011 08:02:03 AM

...but there have only been 3 Indiana Jones Movies.

Re: George Lucas talks Indiana Jones 5
Posted By HarrisonFord 1 December 15, 2011 01:31:24 PM

@popebadass. You are spot on! The real crimes about Indy 4 wasn't the "Nuke The Fridge" or giant ants, or even the Alien McGuffin. It was the fact that it was all done in shitty CGI. And yes! The whole film did look like it was filmed inside the set of f*cking 'Happy Days'. Is George to blame for all that? No, that is Spielberg's fault. He should start accepting some of the blame for this car crash, because he was driving!
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